Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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redwingillini11

White and Sixth
North Aurora
He’s not an idiot … He’s gonna tell everyone he’s all in on the off chance it may help him get better feedback from teams thinking he’s really, really considering it … Then he’ll realize he can make way more in CBB than in Spain B League and announce he’s returning to school and entering the portal …
So is he forgoing his eligibility or not? Mixed signals bouncing around here...
 
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You don't know that!! I think that young man if he actually shows up to Illinois will have a chip on his shoulder the size of Chicago. Haven't you been paying attention to all the tweets about how people have been doubting him all year???
That chip will get you know where if opponents bat you away like a gnat because you weigh nothing.
 
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RichardKeenesCousin

Richard Keene's Cousin
Smoking straight facts … He’s gonna play less than Buck did this year …

Kid is talented but he needs Fletched… The easiest way to ride the pine is not being able to defend … And that’s not exactly a strength of his …

We don’t need him to score … We’ve got proven scorers … So if he can’t defend … Can’t create for others yet … Isn’t strong enough to guard bigger guys … Where do you expect Brad to put him ?

Now the kid is talented and will he be a piece for the future ? Yes - if he stays … But is he ready now ? Absolutely not … And if you told Hawkins and TJ that DGL was the starting PG next year … There’s a 0% chance they come back …
your words make me feel good.
 
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So is he forgoing his eligibility or not? Mixed signals bouncing around here...
Really depends on the agent he hires. As long as he hires an agent certified to work with college eligible prospects, it doesn't matter if he announces his intention or not.
I think a lot of these guys don't want to go into the try-out with a mindset of returning to school. The mindset is to make them NBA take notice, and get drafted. I'd like to see the conversion rate of player who announce their intention to maintain eligibility, and ultimately stay in the draft. It's probably very few.
 
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Smoking straight facts … He’s gonna play less than Buck did this year …

Kid is talented but he needs Fletched… The easiest way to ride the pine is not being able to defend … And that’s not exactly a strength of his …

We don’t need him to score … We’ve got proven scorers … So if he can’t defend … Can’t create for others yet … Isn’t strong enough to guard bigger guys … Where do you expect Brad to put him ?

Now the kid is talented and will he be a piece for the future ? Yes - if he stays … But is he ready now ? Absolutely not … And if you told Hawkins and TJ that DGL was the starting PG next year … There’s a 0% chance they come back …
Who are these proven scorers that are returning? We don’t have a proven free throw shooter let alone a plethora of “proven scorers
 
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sacraig

The desert
I’m predicting this is our squad for next year:

PG- DGL
SG- Domask
SF- Goode
PF- Hawkins
C- Dainja

Bench- Rodgers, Hansberry, Harmon, Moretti, Harris

A lot depends on DGL being able to play a minutes right away. Even if you get a low to mid major PG or JUCO to come in I don’t see the ceiling being raised much. Gonna need Goode/Domask to each shoot 37+% from 3, Dainja to be a consistent low post scorer, Hawkins to be a rim protector. Harris to be a lock down defender. Rodgers to improve all facets. A collection of role players coming together to be greater than the sum of their parts which was the opposite of this past year.

I think we will struggle athletically playing Goode/Dainja/Domask together. Hawkins will need to cover up ALOT which he’s capable of if his mind is to it.
If you believe @Indy Illini Fan then there's no way Hawkins is here if we have a freshman as our only option running the point.
 
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Bc every non-drafted free agent is looking at the path Max Strus, Duncan Robinson Fred Van Vleet and Austin Reaves have taken where the quicker they get their toes into the league, the quicker they can make big money even if undrafted.

Every additional year of college is one less year of an NBA deal down the road. Careers are finite.

The only reason it would make financial sense to stay in college and play for NIL is if you never think you’ll ever play in the NBA. Plus there’s the injury risk of staying in college and delaying a pro career. There are definite costs to delaying a pro career that 1 year of NIL may not be worth it
The biggest issue with your argument is todays NBA vs College is NOT the same as it was for those players. Those players jumped to get paid to play basketball as soon as possible. As you said, careers are finite.

These kids no longer have to jump to pro ball to get paid though. So they get to weigh playing one more year of ball for let’s say $500k vs grinding out a year of g league ball for $40k in the hopes of it leading to a roster spot sooner.
 
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Yeah I mean let's say the quiet part loud here. DGL changes high schools every year and bailed on his commitment to his hometown school for their rival on a relative whim.

DGL is probably one and done at Illinois. Maybe not, hopefully not, don't plan it that way, put the work in, but be realistic.

This is college basketball now. None of us like it, but you find the best ways to win that you can.
Epps showed the blueprint for retention though. Daddy Brad is going to have to do 2 rounds of talent/CBA eval.

1- get the player on campus
2- determine if the player is worth the $$ to retain
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
yup. could be anywhere from 2-4 more transfers coming in
Is there zero interest in another freshman?

Epps showed the blueprint for retention though. Daddy Brad is going to have to do 2 rounds of talent/CBA eval.

1- get the player on campus
2- determine if the player is worth the $$ to retain
If we lost Epps over money Brad is wrong and Ed Cooley is right.

I don't think we lost Epps over money.
 
#942      

Joel Goodson

respect my decision™
I don't think we lost Epps over money.

I think a good chunk of Epps' decision was predicated on money (where good chunk is roughly half, and that may be a significant understatement).

The vast majority of us aren't ever gonna know what went down, but I'm very comfortable that Underwood saw some red flags and decided to part ways.
 
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I think UF FSU and UCF all make sense. He went to high school in Kissimmee which is in central Florida, and is probably tired of northern winters...
Agree Florida schools make sense. I think RJ would like the dominican connection with Ricardo Greer. He would also be the 1st or 2nd option there. I think he would flourish in the A-10.
 
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He declared for the draft … As he got told to do … He has nothing to lose by doing it as I stated earlier …

He has until May 31st to announce he’s in the draft or coming back …

This is exactly what we told you was going to happen … Take a deep breath yall … Geesh 😂
Too many people (especially the idiots on twitter) are freaking out about this.

By no means does he have to stat hes keeping his eligibility. I mean !!!! the kid could hire (an NBA approved) agent and still pull out of the draft and return to college retaining eligibility.

It would almost be foolish for him to NOT go through the NBA draft combine, received feedback and then make a decision based off that.

It has been widely reported how weak the 2024 draft class is projected to be. If there is even an inkling that he could come back, perform and improve the way the NBA asked him to to get himself into the 1st round next year... he'll have a lot more on his plate to consider. Its going to be a long ride until the pull out deadling. Everyone take a breath here.
 
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TSJ was not listed in either the first or second round of the last mock I saw.

17 - Jett Howard
20 - Kris Murray
30 - Trace Jackson-Davis
59 - Podz
60 - Z. Edey
65 - Jalen Pickett
71 - TSJ
77 - D. Timme
What publication posted the mock you saw? The one from ESPN that I cited was put out yesterday.
 
#946      
Too many people (especially the idiots on twitter) are freaking out about this.

By no means does he have to stat hes keeping his eligibility. I mean !!!! the kid could hire (an NBA approved) agent and still pull out of the draft and return to college retaining eligibility.

It would almost be foolish for him to NOT go through the NBA draft combine, received feedback and then make a decision based off that.

It has been widely reported how weak the 2024 draft class is projected to be. If there is even an inkling that he could come back, perform and improve the way the NBA asked him to to get himself into the 1st round next year... he'll have a lot more on his plate to consider. Its going to be a long ride until the pull out deadling. Everyone take a breath here.
Let’s refrain from calling people idiots, ok?
 
#947      

ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
I think a good chunk of Epps' decision was predicated on money (where good chunk is roughly half, and that may be a significant understatement).

The vast majority of us aren't ever gonna know what went down, but I'm very comfortable that Underwood saw some red flags and decided to part ways.
Well that kinda mixes the two together.

I think Epps and his camp just decided he didn't want to be here and this wasn't the right environment and situation for him.

But someone said in one of these threads that "the productivity wasn't worth the NIL expectations" and that's flat-out wrong. I anticipate Epps being a big star at Georgetown, he is an incredibly promising player with very rare ability to get to the rim and finish.

And as a more general matter, I predict that as the NIL market develops, programs are going to find that continuity has a higher financial value than its currently being given.
 
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sacraig

The desert
If you can ball you can play! We had all of our players walking around being Fletched, how did that work out this year??? You can't measure the size of someone's heart.
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Assuming TSJ and Hawk come back and we land a PG i would expect a line up like this. I feel RJ would have started had he stayed. That thought combined with most feeling like Domask > RJ as a player is one reason I see this as the line up next year.

Experienced pg-Dennis?
TSJ
Domask
HAWK
Dain
If TSJ leaves then Ty or possibly Goode.
I know there are various thought on Domask but being a top 5 player in the Valley and a balanced skill set I have higher expectations from him than most it seems.
 
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