Illini Basketball 2023-2024

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Three guarantees in this world: death, taxes, and Illinois basketball being very, very, good this season!
 
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doowink said:
I agree...but I'm in a quandry....is the glass half empty or half full.....some on here are worried that Ty will have trouble handling the ball and staying with quicker guards....some are worried that DGL doesn't weigh enough (reportedly 180#) and will struggle handling bigger stronger guards, fighting through screens etc....some think that Harmon hasn't enough experience against high caliber guards to compete....some think that Harris can't shoot, and will be lucky to make a dozen FT's all season long.....these are all questions to be answered...but each of these guards bring certain skills to the team that could and I think will give other teams match up problems....rather than being limited to one certain type of guard style or play... we have several guards with different skills that I think puts us in a very good position going into this season....JMO
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I am not as concerned about the height, weight and quickness of our pg as much as just being able to play the position as we need. As we saw last year one of the most effective point gaurds in the country last year was only 5'8". Obviously there is a wish list for the optimum point gaurd but there is more than one size and one way to be a good point gaurd. We just need one of ours to be that guy for us. It sounds like that may be happening with Ty and DGL.
 
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Calvin said:
One of my biggest concerns for the team. How often does a player have significant improvement in FT shooting or 3 pt shooting? It's one reason I could see DGL getting minutes as secondary PG at the start of the season, but earning a lot more minutes, crucial minutes at the end of games, later in the season. Door is open IMO --not sure how it will play out.
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I'd expect both harris and rodgers to revert to their high school mean regarding free throw percentage. I'm marking the freshmen numbers as anomalies.

Three point a different story. Lots of great players have improved there. I'm thinking Gill and Head.

In the pros both pippin and Jordan made big leaps.

I'm an old man. So I'm expecting at least one of the 4 suppositions here to be wrong.
 
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Tevo said:
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Sorry, I'll include the /s next time.
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It's honestly kind of true though. You have a better shooters background I'm high school with the wall behind the basket vs the giant stadiums you play in D1.

Obviously they will get used to it but it's a legitimate thing.
 
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I am not as concerned about the height, weight and quickness of our pg as much as just being able to play the position as we need. As we saw last year one of the most effective point gaurds in the country last year was only 5'8". Obviously there is a wish list for the optimum point gaurd but there is more than one size and one way to be a good point gaurd. We just need one of ours to be that guy for us. It sounds like that may be happening with Ty and DGL.
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No one (actually more than some) seemed that worried about our five star frosh PG last year but it didn’t work. Why do I believe DGL will be a lot better out of the gate. Think it is an attitude thing. One with stars and one with a chip on his shoulder. Sticking with frosh Belo who can shoot. Think he and Buck can lock down PU’s guards. Tough for Edey to score if he can’t get the ball.
 
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do we know if the Marquette game is a 6 or 8 pm tip? if it's 6 pm, I don't feel awesome because the crowds are usually mediocre for those games
 
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I think after seeing the "hottest" of the Purdue cheerleaders he is the one who backed out.
 
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PepeSilvia said:
Biggest takeaway from that was talking about Domask being able to guard 4s.

I think with that we will see a bunch of small ball lineups with Coleman at the 5 and some combination of Shannon, Goode, Domask, Rodgers, and Harmon.
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That and he seems very excited about the freshmen.
 
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SkyysNotFalling said:
Would be absolutely shocked if this team finishes the entire year with less than 26 wins. They’re the most experienced & talented team top to bottom in the big ten by a wide margin.. only other team that compares is MSU. Purdue is a 1 trick pony.
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Purdue's pony can win a lot of games tho. And the freshman point guards who got a ton of minutes last year taking the sophomore leap should make them better than last year.
 
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PepeSilvia said:
Harris an absurdly good athlete and I love the way he plays since he's tough and unafraid of contact. He is so so fast on the break where he basically just can outrun everyone.

However I didn't see him showcase any skills offensively last season. He struggled to handle the ball at this level and his shot looked broken. Going 4/20 from the line is almost incomprehensibly bad for a D1 guard.

Hopefully I'm wrong because if he can handle the ball and shoot then he's going to the NBA.
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I don't know how much time he gets unless he has dramatically improved his ball skills and shooting and decision making. I think he is a kid who looks to transfer if he is not a main 15 -18 mpg guy. Right now with the alleged development of DGL and the guys ahead of him he will not get very many minutes. Show me where the minutes are at the 1/2. We are not playing 11 guys. We will not play 10 guys significant minutes unless an injury after cupcake season.


Dainja
Hawkins
Domask
Shannon 2
Rodgers 1

Guerrier
Goode 2/3
Harmon 1/2
DGL 1

Harris 1/2
Hansberry

Our offense was abysmal at times last year (68th in country). You cannot play 4 on 5 except for spot minutes. If Ty cannot take an open 15 footer or threeball, you can't ever have them both on floor at same time.
 
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Mojoman said:
I don't know how much time he gets unless he has dramatically improved his ball skills and shooting and decision making. I think he is a kid who looks to transfer if he is not a main 15 -18 mpg guy. Right now with the alleged development of DGL and the guys ahead of him he will not get very many minutes. Show me where the minutes are at the 1/2. We are not playing 11 guys. We will not play 10 guys significant minutes unless an injury after cupcake season.


Dainja
Hawkins
Domask
Shannon 2
Rodgers 1

Guerrier
Goode 2/3
Harmon 1/2
DGL 1

Harris 1/2
Hansberry

Our offense was abysmal at times last year (68th in country). You cannot play 4 on 5 except for spot minutes. If Ty cannot take an open 15 footer or threeball, you can't ever have them both on floor at same time.
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Your last point about not being able to play Harris and Rodgers on the floor at the same time is correct but I'd extend that to Dain too.

I think Harris can get 10-15 minutes purely on defensive abilities. If Rodgers I playing upper 20s than you only would possibly have a few minutes of overlap though.

I have hard time seeing where Dain will get his minutes though. Coleman wil obviously be on the court a lot. They got Guerrier for a reason and has played over 20 minutes a game all 4 seasons. Plus you have to figure Hansberry will see a little bit of time.
 
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ILLINIFAN2

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jjv0004 said:
I bought my stock a while ago and have been on pulling the wagon along. I think the dude is an elite athlete and is going to surprise the heck out of people this year.
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I did as well many moons ago after watching his highlights, dude is a baller and bucket getter. Hope he excels here and gets some tic this year.
 
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