I think people had the right to wonder about this team. They looked brutal in the first half. No other way to put it. I had remind myself of what happened last year when Illinois lost to Indiana. They didn't look like a real good team at that point either, but turned it around. We will know a lot more after the Kansas game.Other than too many on here throwing in the towel on the game, team and season before second half started, just the usual.
It looked like Josh did a bit of trash talking too. Not sure.I agree Love should be getting the most carries. The problem with Josh is that he just doesn't fit the Lunney offense. He has an upright running style that depends on getting forward momentum to break tackles and doing that out of shotgun is a lot harder to do.
Yeah there’s a reason Ohio state is the only BIG team to schedule them since 2010Anyone upset over how close it was probably doesn't know that Toledo has not had a losing season since 2009. In that stretch, Illinois has gone to 5 bowl games. Toledo - 10.
snarkyness is absurd in this situation, as Toledo is a VERY good program.BTW , that we WON..............................the armchair QB's are out tonight ........Is it a full moon or what........Yikes........
SMH .....for some illogical reason I thought the Fighting Illini , coming back from a 19-7 deficit and WINNING the game might quell the usual negative banter so often professed here lately , but again I am wrong in my belief that a great win tonight would be praised and cherished instead of the needless picking apart of our weakness' after the FIRST GAME OF THE SEASON......
silly me...........snarkyness has a foothold here and won't be tamed in the near future............all opinions are to be posted and I wholeheartedly support that stance , but some reasoning and logic should accompany all the snarkyness.......
Again , the radio color guy for us , Martin O'Donnell stated close to halftime that the refs would need to soak their flag throwing arms in a bucket of ice water or their arms might break off with the number of penalties in the first half.......
I'm already looking forward to next weeks game , on the road , against a Big 12 opponent.........I really really am.............
JMHO.......................
Yeah, maybe Walters calling the defense was the big difference maker.Very disappointed in our front 7 on defense tonight. Just looked like we were beat on both lines tonight. But Im always happy for a victory.
Is there an obvious game I'm missing where we were manhandled like that up front in the Bielema era? I can't think of one, @PSU in 2021 and @Michigan last year we certainly were not.
And that was Toledo. Yikes.
Agreed and it was upfront on both sides. I was a little critical of McCray last night because he looked like he was stuck in mud. That said, the line was pushed until his lap.Is there an obvious game I'm missing where we were manhandled like that up front in the Bielema era? I can't think of one, @PSU in 2021 and @Michigan last year we certainly were not.
And that was Toledo. Yikes.
Seems like the defense only rushed 3 players for a good part of the game. Therefore, no pressure on the qb. I assume the reason was to try to hold him in the pocket? Anyway, it didn't work. We were way too passive, lack of a pass rush and very few blitzes. I don't know what Henry was thinking, but I hope he ditches that scheme for KU.Yeah, maybe Walters calling the defense was the big difference maker.
I couldn’t tell if it was scheme, play calling or just lack of effort, but for a front 7 that is as talented as any in the big ten, that was not a good showing at all- need to figure out how to spring guys loose much better than that
it was very strange we didn’t wear them down and dominate both sides of the line the second half .Is there an obvious game I'm missing where we were manhandled like that up front in the Bielema era? I can't think of one, @PSU in 2021 and @Michigan last year we certainly were not.
And that was Toledo. Yikes.
yup Toledo I think is better than Nebraska, Minnesota, Northwestern and IndianaWrong
I was only catching pieces of the 2nd half, but it seemed like McCray had some better runs in the 2nd half. I still think he has a role in the offense.I'm not going to write off McCray just yet. Our line didn't play their best and he didn't get much of a first year in the Lunney offense. If he still can't find running room in a month I'll be more concerned.
I'm not trying to make excuses as the lineplay was pretty subpar on both sides of the ball, but I will attempt to explain what I think may have happened:Is there an obvious game I'm missing where we were manhandled like that up front in the Bielema era? I can't think of one, @PSU in 2021 and @Michigan last year we certainly were not.
And that was Toledo. Yikes.
Most of Altmeyer's runs were within an offensiv plan/game calls. He rarely was running for his life. But, he can clearly do that. And man can he throw the ball.If Luke has to run that much in our games, and.O line is that bad. He will not last past game 3. I sure hope the O line improves quickly gels!
This!Seems like the defense only rushed 3 players for a good part of the game. Therefore, no pressure on the qb. I assume the reason was to try to hold him in the pocket? Anyway, it didn't work. We were way too passive, lack of a pass rush and very few blitzes. I don't know what Henry was thinking, but I hope he ditches that scheme for KU.
I'm thinking of rewatching the game. But, I felt like anytime we brought pressure it worked. Even if it wasn't a sack, the play was usually shutdown. The idea that we had to play "contain" was not working. The pressure was.The three man rush plan should have been thrown out after the first quarter. All it did was allow them to double team Newton and Randolph and we got absolutely no pressure on the qb.