Illinois 82, Kansas 75 (Exhibition) Postgame

#101      
Wow, this is pretty incredible.

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#106      
Here's a little gloom. You ain't gonna shoot 41% on 3s on the road, so get ready to play Dainja more than 9 mins.
Simply not true, but those performances will lean to home court. Over 68 years of watching every Illini game I could as well as a myriad of others, I have seen hundreds games where visiting teams have shot 40% from the arc....or better ....in Huff, Assembly Hall, and all other venues around the country. This team will likely do it maybe a handful more of times and it will likely happen on the road too. And it may happen against them a time or two in SFC like PSU did last year.
 
#107      
Kansas did not really sub much. They had four guys with 35+ minutes while TJ and Domask were our only two over 30. Our depth is definitely our biggest strength.
66/82 points from four guys.
79/82 points from six guys.

Oddly, our depth wasn’t a big factor today.
 
#108      
I live in Kansas City now. Loved this. Almost like twenty years went away.

Good things,
we are an old team. They’re not gonna be overwhelmed.
I think Rogers is gonna be passable, it’s not ideal, but it’s not gonna kill us. Plus it’s gonna really help his development.
Domask is legit. That was the top team in America and he more than held his own.


The questions,
We still don’t shoot free throws well. I don’t get it. But, we’ve won at a high clip anyways under Brad.
The freshman are a bit behind where I was hoping they’d be. Luckily we just beat the number one team in America without them being ready.
Finally, this game won’t help our seeding. Lol
 
#109      
I love that we won, but that game was very similar to last year. If we made threes, we won. If we didn't, we lost. We got dominated inside and made threes and free throws (not well) to make up for it. I like all the options and depth, but I would like to see us getting to the rim more to hit the high percentage shots. Leaning on 41% shooting from three isn't going to cut it. I hope we can do more 8nside.
IF this were true, our record would've been abysmal last year
We shot 35% or better from three 7 times all year, and 3 of those were against monmouth, lindenwood, and minnesota

THe other 4 games were an L against IU, wisconsin (who we beat by the exact same amount when we shot 50+ from 3 as when we played them and shot 30%), Tx, UCLA

I think the shot selection on 3s was WAY better in this game than most of last year. LEss 1 pass full speed transition 3s, stepbacks, random off dribble 3s guarded, etc.
We do need to shore up the paint, but to be fair we were forcing them off the 3 pt line which opens that up down low and we were up against one of the best interior scorers in the league
 
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#120      
IF this were true, our record would've been abysmal last year
We shot 35% or better from three 7 times all year, and 3 of those were against monmouth, lindenwood, and minnesota

THe other 4 games were an L against IU, wisconsin (who we beat by the exact same amount when we shot 50+ from 3 as when we played them and shot 30%), Tx, UCLA

I think the shot selection on 3s was WAY better in this game than most of last year. LEss 1 pass full speed transition 3s, stepbacks, random off dribble 3s guarded, etc.
We do need to shore up the paint, but to be fair we were forcing them off the 3 pt line which opens that up down low and we were up against one of the best interior scorers in the league
Outstanding fact check.

Also, FWIW, I think it’s ok that we needed a good shooting night to beat #1. If you’re beating #1 on a bad shooting night, then YOU are probably #1.

I also don’t think our 3-point percentage was a fluke. Sure, TSJ isn’t going to shoot 55%, but Goode isn’t going to go 0-for-the-season. And 2 of our 16 misses came from DGL and Hansberry, who don’t appear to be rotation guys for a “real” game like this.
 
#121      
Outstanding fact check.

Also, FWIW, I think it’s ok that we needed a good shooting night to beat #1. If you’re beating #1 on a bad shooting night, then YOU are probably #1.

I also don’t think our 3-point percentage was a fluke. Sure, TSJ isn’t going to shoot 55%, but Goode isn’t going to go 0-for-the-season. And 2 of our 16 misses came from DGL and Hansberry, who don’t appear to be rotation guys for a “real” game like this.
Hansberry shot a 3?
 
#122      

JSpence

Evansville, IN
I agree with this.

Seems that we still rely on the 3-pt shot a little too much. And Coleman and TSJ aren't going to hit them at a 50% clip all year long. In fact, Self pretty much said as much in his post-game presser.
I appreciate the measured response. "A little too much" is right.

Also, this team won't be playing a top ten team every time they hit the floor, which helps their chances of winning. 41% doesn't need to be the average. In a vacuum, they could have missed two more threes tonight, ended at 33%, and still scored more points than their opponent.

The guys can't predict or control their shooting percentage. The critical thing in their control is not spending the whole game trying to shoot their way out of a bad shooting night. 25% on 10 threes is entirely survivable. 28% on 30 threes rarely will be.
 
#123      
Wow, lot of new faces, new numbers, hard to keep up with who is who.

Two take aways

Should we, will we, be ranked higher as a result of this “win”?

Robbie Hummel continues to make the case that he is an ELITE college basketball analyst.
There are some Hummel detractors around, but I have always liked him. I think the Big 10 Network basketball commentators as a whole do a good job, because they know the conference better than any of the national correspondents.
 
#125      
One more thing:
We won the first half by one point on 44% 3-point shooting, and we won the second half by six points on 36% 3-point shooting. So I really don’t think it’s fair to say we’ll only win when we’re hot from three.

Edit: I’m an idiot, won first half by 6 and second by 1. So I guess I’ll be happy still outscored #1 in the half we shot 36%.

Carry on.
 
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