Game Thread: Illinois at Tennessee

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The near double digit spread is weird to me. Vegas is pretty spot on though, so do we have a starter that is going to miss the game or something? Having a hard time imagining they are 8 points better than us, even if you give them 2-3 points as it's a home game.
I don't think it's weird. I think that it's more of validation of UT's schedule. They haven't ducked anyone. Wisconsin, Syracuse, Purdue, Kansas and North Carolina. Three of those games were true road games and two were neutral site games. Even George Mason isn't a light weight. Being honest and objective, what would our record be if we played that schedule?

When it comes to tournament quality teams, we've played two and one was at home(we lost). Right now, they are much more battle tested, they're extremely talented and they're playing at home where they're extremely tough to beat.

It's still early in the season, so there are a lot of unknowns, but UT is far less of an unknown than we are. This is PROBABLY going to end up being the toughest game on our schedule.

+7.5, given the above, is probably right. This game will be a benefit to us, regardless of outcome.
 
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I don't think it's weird. I think that it's more of validation of UT's schedule. They haven't ducked anyone. Wisconsin, Syracuse, Purdue, Kansas and North Carolina. Three of those games were true road games and two were neutral site games. Even George Mason isn't a light weight. Being honest and objective, what would our record be if we played that schedule?

When it comes to tournament quality teams, we've played two and one was at home(we lost). Right now, they are much more battle tested, they're extremely talented and they're playing at home where they're extremely tough to beat.

It's still early in the season, so there are a lot of unknowns, but UT is far less of an unknown than we are. This is PROBABLY going to end up being the toughest game on our schedule.

+7.5, given the above, is probably right. This game will be a benefit to us, regardless of outcome.

Yeah they've played a heck of a schedule, but have lost to everyone. They aren't a great shooting team, aren't a great defensive team, in fact I'm not sure what they are "great" at. We just hammered Rutgers on the road and what we did in MSG should've opened some eyes. We are statistically elite on defense and statistically elite in rebounding metrics. And, it looks like we can score a fair bit too as we put up 75 points in a 24 minute stretch vs #11.

Tennessee is #17 and beat George Mason this week. We are #20 and certainly looked the part against Rutgers and FAU. I think its hard to make a legitimate case for an 8 point spread, but again, Vegas is better at this than any of us could ever be.
 
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I wouldn't go that far, but it will be a game where we get a really good temperature of where we're at. This was a monster swing of the bat that BU took when scheduling this home and home. I THINK that we're going to see some holes spring a leak in some areas, but that's fine. That's why you schedule these types of games. Let's see where we're at. Right now, we only have two guys who have played meaningful/weight baring/critical minutes on this stage. We'll see shortly.
 
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Yeah they've played a heck of a schedule, but have lost to everyone. They aren't a great shooting team, aren't a great defensive team, in fact I'm not sure what they are "great" at. We just hammered Rutgers on the road and what we did in MSG should've opened some eyes. We are statistically elite on defense and statistically elite in rebounding metrics. And, it looks like we can score a fair bit too as we put up 75 points in a 24 minute stretch vs #11.

Tennessee is #17 and beat George Mason this week. We are #20 and certainly looked the part against Rutgers and FAU. I think its hard to make a legitimate case for an 8 point spread, but again, Vegas is better at this than any of us could ever be.
I can confirm your last sentence to be true. They prove it to me, firmly, on a weekly basis. Here's to hoping they're 8 points too heavy.
 
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The near double digit spread is weird to me. Vegas is pretty spot on though, so do we have a starter that is going to miss the game or something? Having a hard time imagining they are 8 points better than us, even if you give them 2-3 points as it's a home game.

KenPom has Tennessee by 5 and Evan Miyakawa has Tennessee by 7.
 
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Yeah they've played a heck of a schedule, but have lost to everyone. They aren't a great shooting team, aren't a great defensive team, in fact I'm not sure what they are "great" at. We just hammered Rutgers on the road and what we did in MSG should've opened some eyes. We are statistically elite on defense and statistically elite in rebounding metrics. And, it looks like we can score a fair bit too as we put up 75 points in a 24 minute stretch vs #11.

Tennessee is #17 and beat George Mason this week. We are #20 and certainly looked the part against Rutgers and FAU. I think its hard to make a legitimate case for an 8 point spread, but again, Vegas is better at this than any of us could ever be.

Huh? They're the 2nd best defensive team in the country per KP and Torvik. They gave up less than 1 point per possession to Wisconsin, Purdue and Kansas. North Carolina was an anomaly. They have been one of the best defensive teams in the country under Rick Barnes for years. (1st, 3rd, and 5th the last three years)
 
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skyIdub

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Yeah they've played a heck of a schedule, but have lost to everyone. They aren't a great shooting team, aren't a great defensive team, in fact I'm not sure what they are "great" at. We just hammered Rutgers on the road and what we did in MSG should've opened some eyes. We are statistically elite on defense and statistically elite in rebounding metrics. And, it looks like we can score a fair bit too as we put up 75 points in a 24 minute stretch vs #11.

Tennessee is #17 and beat George Mason this week. We are #20 and certainly looked the part against Rutgers and FAU. I think its hard to make a legitimate case for an 8 point spread, but again, Vegas is better at this than any of us could ever be.
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Huh? They're the 2nd best defensive team in the country per KP. They gave up less than 1 point per possession to Wisconsin, Purdue and Kansas. North Carolina was an anomaly. They have been one of the best defensive teams in the country under Rick Barnes for years. (1st, 3rd, and 5th the last three years)

Aren't the analytics still using last year's data? I was going by what I've seen as I have watched them play a few games this year. Wisconsin put up 80. They got smoked by UNC although they made the final score look respectable after the game was already over.
 
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Why? I've watched a few of their games. They do not look the part of an elite defensive team to me. They play a 5-9 kid and although they have a couple good individual defenders, I haven't seen anything special from them on defense. Rutgers is better on that end imo.
 
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Aren't the analytics still using last year's data? I was going by what I've seen as I have watched them play a few games this year. Wisconsin put up 80. They got smoked by UNC although they made the final score look respectable after the game was already over.

Wisconsin scored 70 points in 71 possessions against them.

They had a bad night against UNC.

And none of their biggest 4 games were at home. 2 were in Maui and the other two were true road games.

For comparison, Purdue scored 71 points in 74 possessions against Tennessee. They scored 78 points in 68 possessions against Marquette. Kansas scored 69 points in 72 possessions against Tennessee and 69 points in 60 possessions against UConn.
 
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skyIdub

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Why? I've watched a few of their games. They do not look the part of an elite defensive team to me. They play a 5-9 kid and although they have a couple good individual defenders, I haven't seen anything special from them on defense. Rutgers is better on that end imo.

You might be right. They are 35th in D Efficiency currently...but they have played arguably one of the toughest schedules in the nation so far.

I just wanted to use the swing and miss .gif, where he hits it on the back swing after whiffing. So...contact?
 
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You might be right. They are 35th in D Efficiency currently...but they have played arguably one of the toughest schedules in the nation so far.

I just wanted to use the swing and miss .gif, where he hits it on the back swing after whiffing. So...contact?

Fair enough 😁

Let's go hang a hundo on 'em though.
 
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If he can only have one six three pointer game, let's save that one for Purdue, Wisconsin, Ohio State, etc. Big picture, this is a temperature/gravy game.
It’s a good thing that’s not how it works and he is welcome to have as many six three pointer games as he wants!
 
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