This Braggin rights game is generally a dogfight more than not. I don't expect anything different in this one. Mizzou did play Kansas tough for most of the game on a neutral floor. If the Illini allow the Tigers to get rolling it could be a long night. If TJS, Domask can score as usual and Guerrier and Hawkins provide some balance to the attack the Illini will be a tough out. Illini 76- Mizzou 73
Pregame: Illinois vs Missouri, Friday, December 22nd, 8:00pm CT, FS1
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I say yes, because half the team will be remembering last year's game.
OTOH they have several players who could go off with 3 pointers and make things tough for us.
But I think our defense will cause them a lot of problems at all five positions.
Big Jack
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@Indy Illini Fan @LvilleILL @illini0440 Maybe i missed it somewhere recently but is there something wrong with Amani? Seemed to my laboring when running through the layup lines last night. I have not seen anything mentioned if he has a problem.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Really ??
Missouri 93-71 Illinois (Dec 22, 2022) Box Score - ESPN
Box score for the Missouri Tigers vs. Illinois Fighting Illini NCAAM game from December 22, 2022 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.
here's the box score from last year..........................
Missouri Tigers
| STARTERS |
| R. DeGray IIIF |
| Ko. BrownG |
| D. HodgeG |
| T. GomillionG |
| N. HonorG |
| BENCH |
| A. ShawF |
| N. CarterF |
| D. GholstonG |
| S. East IIG |
| TEAM |
clearly shows Honor as a starter last year and East , Carter and Shaw as bench players , but all 4 played last year......
| Honor played 30 mins East played 23 mins Carter played 9 mins Shaw played 4 mins | ||||||||||||
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Ugh, you are correct. I was looking at the prior year where Honor was at Clemson, East at John A. Logan, and Carter at Northern Iowa.Really ??
Missouri 93-71 Illinois (Dec 22, 2022) Box Score - ESPN
Box score for the Missouri Tigers vs. Illinois Fighting Illini NCAAM game from December 22, 2022 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.www.espn.com
here's the box score from last year..........................
Missouri Tigers
STARTERS R. DeGray IIIF Ko. BrownG D. HodgeG T. GomillionG N. HonorG BENCH A. ShawF N. CarterF D. GholstonG S. East IIG TEAM
clearly shows Honor as a starter last year and East , Carter and Shaw as bench players , but all 4 played last year......
Honor played 30 mins
East played 23 mins
Carter played 9 mins
Shaw played 4 mins
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
It's remarkable that the warm spork surgery is not the strangest part of this stream of consciousness.
This seems to be Mizzou's plan for success....one we have seen work out well for them in the past 5 years. We have seen the Illini play defense at a really high and disruptive level at times this year, but who knows if the Mizzou frenzy will negate that. In addition, they outwork the Illini to the point our guys have looked slow and uninterested.
And we all pray that changes this year. We are all therefore insane...but that is not news. What I want to see is high focus and effort...and an uptick in competence. Love the recent FT shooting.
If we want to win this game we need to run Miznoz off the line… East is shooting 60% from 3 this season, that’s not a typo. Honor is shooting 45% & Bates is shooting 52%….
One thing you have to give John Groce is that his teams performed in Braggin' Rights games.
Only time I ever heard something similar was Louie DePalma on "Taxi" saying he'd rather take out his appendix with a warm spoon than congratulate Bobby on getting a big acting job.
That is insane. Luckily (maybe?) East and Bates only shoot 2 or 3 a game. So that’s 2-3 made threes between them. (Statistically)
Honor shoots 6 so we have to limit him for sure.
We play good half court D and have run guys off the 3 point line so far this year, my fear is transition 3s.
If they start to get hot, look out, they are gonna be near unbeatable. Especially if we try to match them 3 for 3.
Let’s hope we can limit their transition looks and get their guards in foul trouble.
They just shot 50% from three and lost to a god awful Seton Hall team. Not a gimme whatsoever though, we need to come out with energy from the jump
Come out and beat them down and lets taste that top 10 ranking next week. Leggo!
They are going to feel emboldened after what Tennessee's press did to us. We need to consistently beat their press and make them pay with easy baskets. I'd like to see us use our overall size to pass over the top of Miznoz pressers with much less dribbling.
CoHawk will be a key in beating the press
Nothing that I’ve been made aware of … But the staff mainly just talks to me about the guys that are a part of the game plan …
Amani won’t see much tick this year …
DeonThomas
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True, but that Seton Hall team shot 44% from behind the arc and 59% overall.
Basically they shot REALLY well and it was juuuust enough to beat Miznoz. (Miznoz cut a 19 pt lead at 6 minutes left down to 4 with 10 seconds left)
All I’m saying is if we can’t keep pace with 3s (like SH did) we better limit their open shots. If we don’t, and shoot our normal % from behind the arc, we could be in for a long night. Miznoz can score in spirts it seems.
Let’s just stomp em from the get-go and drive them into the floor. Maybe put up triple digits on em??
Miznoz sat zone most of the game. Lot of Seton Hall's looks had a ton of space. Guessing their plan will differ for Illini...if not they should be in for a long night.True, but that Seton Hall team shot 44% from behind the arc and 59% overall.
Basically they shot REALLY well and it was juuuust enough to beat Miznoz. (Miznoz cut a 19 pt lead at 6 minutes left down to 4 with 10 seconds left)
All I’m saying is if we can’t keep pace with 3s (like SH did) we better limit their open shots. If we don’t, and shoot our normal % from behind the arc, we could be in for a long night. Miznoz can score in spirts it seems.
Let’s just stomp em from the get-go and drive them into the floor. Maybe put up triple digits on em??
Agreed on the triple digits!!
That’s unfortunate. Brad was talking about how consistent and good he has been whenever he has spoke of him… what’s the issue? Personally I’d rather see him than Dain most of the time …Nothing that I’ve been made aware of … But the staff mainly just talks to me about the guys that are a part of the game plan …
Amani won’t see much tick this year …
Homecoming 2019
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Thought it seemed like the NET overrated the B12 teams and underrated B1G teams compared to Kenpom. Decided to check it out. Comparing top 25 and top 75 in each for Q1 wins.
Kenpom B1G:
Top 25 - 4 teams
Top 75 - 10
NET B1G:
Top 25 - 3
Top 75 - 8
Kenpom B12:
Top 25 - 6
Top 75 - 11
NET B12:
Top 25 - 6
Top 75 - 11
Turns out the NET is just low on the B1G compared to Kenpom. Basically every B1G team has a worse NET ranking vs Kenpom.
Kenpom B1G:
Top 25 - 4 teams
Top 75 - 10
NET B1G:
Top 25 - 3
Top 75 - 8
Kenpom B12:
Top 25 - 6
Top 75 - 11
NET B12:
Top 25 - 6
Top 75 - 11
Turns out the NET is just low on the B1G compared to Kenpom. Basically every B1G team has a worse NET ranking vs Kenpom.
Isn’t the way to beat a zone to shoot over it? (And make them obviously)
If so, lots of Luke and TSJ finding open spots please.
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