Pregame: Illinois vs Missouri, Friday, December 22nd, 8:00pm CT, FS1

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The Galloping Ghost

Washington, DC
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it I had to choose between having any association with miznoz, or having my arms and legs cut off and then be forced to eat them, vomit them back up, and them eat them again…

100% choosing the latter.

Illini 7655764457
miznoz -6
 
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Retro62

North Bethesda, Maryland
Last year, altgeld88 and I had to leave World of Beer, who does not carry FS1, and go to another bar where they did. It is a bar frequented by a strange mix of college kids and middle-agers. What made it worse was that a group of dressed up and slicked back middle-agers were there, while the daughter of the lead guy (think Christopher McDonald in Happy Gilmore…but less charming) was there with her girl friends…and the Dad kept buying shots for his daughter and her friends, while his friends ogled them…

That was the backdrop for the night of horror we experienced during that game. I don’t know if the word revenge is appropriate…for me and altgeld88, we need the Illini to expunge that evening from our memory by obliterating the obtuse Ozark oafs.
 
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Ok, people have been asking for weeks on other threads and nobody has a plan. Where is official illinois pregame and post-game at? We can surely all get on the same page for boos and illini, right?
 
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lstewart53x3

Scottsdale, Arizona
I hate this game as the favorite. ”Throw the records out” games suck when you’re the favorite. This is a bad Missouri team. If this is a regular game, we win by 15+. But it’s not a regular game. This is a border war for Braggin‘ Rights. Missouri’s gonna play their best game of the year, like the underdog does every year. The question is, are we gonna be ready?
 
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DeonThomas

South Carolina
We were 15 point favorites vs Colgate at home.

I'll guess Illini -4.5 at neutral site.
 
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pruman91

Paducah, Ky
My thoughts on misery......................

Beating misery starts and stops with containing Sean East II..........He is their engine per se , with the ability to score at all 3 levels....His 3 pt shooting has improved a lot......he has always been a driver to the rim and now he is looking to pass the ball back out when stopped on the drive......He is prone to foul trouble if the game is called tight.....sometimes he gets out of control if the opponents D is good enough to frustrate him in what he wants to do.......

Nick Honor is a fireplug in size but a good shooter from anywhere inside the center court line.......I have seen him make 30 footers and then have 2-3 airballs because he doesn't always get his footwork set right......he will drive the paint and get out of control and make bad passes as he jumps when contained and can have his passes picked off......plays ok defense and also is prone to foul trouble........

Noah Carter is a forward who wants to be a guard.....he loves to shoot 3's and will make about 1 out of 4 , but has been hot unless you guard him........defense is sub standard...............

Tamar Bates is an ex loosier with a BIG MOUTH and an average game....can make a 3 but doesn't do any else that stands out other than trash talking.....I look for him to try to start something to incite our team with his all star mouth.....his defense is easily exploited as he gets lost in the defensive end.......

Connor Vanover wears # 75 for a reason as he is 7'5" and a Bill Walton look a like.............But that's where the comparison ends as he has a 2" vertical and can be pushed around due to his skinny frame.....they have been increasing their alley oops to him when the guard is stopped in penetration but he can be contained inside our defensive scheme....JMHO

Aiden Shaw is a slim 6'8" frosh who plays hard , but not very smart......goes over the back on most rebound attempts and spends more time in foul trouble on the bench than on the court , at least in the 3-4 games I have watched.....has plenty of potential but now plays out of control like a bull in a china shop..........

Anthony Robinson II is a 6'2" frosh with plenty of defensive skills....he is adept with getting steals and heavy defensive pressure....how much he impact's the game will depend on how the game is called.....he is another misery player prone to foul trouble but he can be a force for them on D.............

I haven't seen enough of their games to comment on the remaining roster but those I listed above get the majority of playing time.........

My assessment of the upcoming game is they have no one who can contain TSJ and Domask.....if we continue our high FT % then I see a 10-15 point advantage and a win for the beloved.......if the game is called where they can hack and crowd the vertical of our team then it will be a pick'em type game......... players on each team will play with an intensity higher than a regular season game.....

This is always a nip and tuck game usually and I expect another game in that vein.....with that being said I think the game will be..........................................


Illini 80
misery 74

JMHO and LET'S GO ILLINI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
Last year, altgeld88 and I had to leave World of Beer, who does not carry FS1, and go to another bar where they did. It is a bar frequented by a strange mix of college kids and middle-agers. What made it worse was that a group of dressed up and slicked back middle-agers were there, while the daughter of the lead guy (think Christopher McDonald in Happy Gilmore…but less charming) was there with her girl friends…and the Dad kept buying shots for his daughter and her friends, while his friends ogled them…

That was the backdrop for the night of horror we experienced during that game. I don’t know if the word revenge is appropriate…for me and altgeld88, we need the Illini to expunge that evening from our memory by obliterating the obtuse Ozark oafs.
Upon sitting down for a dose of Loyalty espresso I found my brother's post concerning our night of horror a year ago. At one point, one of the late-middle-aged dudes hitting on his friend's 20-year-old daughter turned to us after glancing at the screen. He obviously knew of the Illini victories earlier in December over UCLA and Texas. He saw the score on the TV (we were down at that point by more than 20) and asked us "What's wrong with you guys tonight?" We could have asked him the same thing.

Anyway, since it's too early for a bracing dose of bourbon to dull the unpleasant memory of that bar and that game a year ago, I offer this as a pre-Miznoz, Monday-morning palate cleanser:

Illini - Ray Rice Mizzou 2.gif
 
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We were 15 point favorites vs Colgate at home.

I'll guess Illini -4.5 at neutral site.

Typical home court advantage in CBB is anywhere from 2.5 to 6 points (not 12).

EDIT: You were meaning the -4.5 as a guess for the Missouri game, I need to learn how to read (its early, first cup of coffee) 🙃
 
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My thoughts on misery......................

Beating misery starts and stops with containing Sean East II..........He is their engine per se , with the ability to score at all 3 levels....His 3 pt shooting has improved a lot......he has always been a driver to the rim and now he is looking to pass the ball back out when stopped on the drive......He is prone to foul trouble if the game is called tight.....sometimes he gets out of control if the opponents D is good enough to frustrate him in what he wants to do.......

Nick Honor is a fireplug in size but a good shooter from anywhere inside the center court line.......I have seen him make 30 footers and then have 2-3 airballs because he doesn't always get his footwork set right......he will drive the paint and get out of control and make bad passes as he jumps when contained and can have his passes picked off......plays ok defense and also is prone to foul trouble........

Noah Carter is a forward who wants to be a guard.....he loves to shoot 3's and will make about 1 out of 4 , but has been hot unless you guard him........defense is sub standard...............

Tamar Bates is an ex loosier with a BIG MOUTH and an average game....can make a 3 but doesn't do any else that stands out other than trash talking.....I look for him to try to start something to incite our team with his all star mouth.....his defense is easily exploited as he gets lost in the defensive end.......

Connor Vanover wears # 75 for a reason as he is 7'5" and a Bill Walton look a like.............But that's where the comparison ends as he has a 2" vertical and can be pushed around due to his skinny frame.....they have been increasing their alley oops to him when the guard is stopped in penetration but he can be contained inside our defensive scheme....JMHO

Aiden Shaw is a slim 6'8" frosh who plays hard , but not very smart......goes over the back on most rebound attempts and spends more time in foul trouble on the bench than on the court , at least in the 3-4 games I have watched.....has plenty of potential but now plays out of control like a bull in a china shop..........

Anthony Robinson II is a 6'2" frosh with plenty of defensive skills....he is adept with getting steals and heavy defensive pressure....how much he impact's the game will depend on how the game is called.....he is another misery player prone to foul trouble but he can be a force for them on D.............

I haven't seen enough of their games to comment on the remaining roster but those I listed above get the majority of playing time.........

My assessment of the upcoming game is they have no one who can contain TSJ and Domask.....if we continue our high FT % then I see a 10-15 point advantage and a win for the beloved.......if the game is called where they can hack and crowd the vertical of our team then it will be a pick'em type game......... players on each team will play with an intensity higher than a regular season game.....

This is always a nip and tuck game usually and I expect another game in that vein.....with that being said I think the game will be..........................................


Illini 80
misery 74

JMHO and LET'S GO ILLINI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also need to stop the 3 point prowess of Mark Smith, aka Treadmill Teddy
 
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uofi7477

Silver & Gold Vandals
My thoughts on misery......................

Beating misery starts and stops with containing Sean East II..........He is their engine per se , with the ability to score at all 3 levels....His 3 pt shooting has improved a lot......he has always been a driver to the rim and now he is looking to pass the ball back out when stopped on the drive......He is prone to foul trouble if the game is called tight.....sometimes he gets out of control if the opponents D is good enough to frustrate him in what he wants to do.......

Nick Honor is a fireplug in size but a good shooter from anywhere inside the center court line.......I have seen him make 30 footers and then have 2-3 airballs because he doesn't always get his footwork set right......he will drive the paint and get out of control and make bad passes as he jumps when contained and can have his passes picked off......plays ok defense and also is prone to foul trouble........

Noah Carter is a forward who wants to be a guard.....he loves to shoot 3's and will make about 1 out of 4 , but has been hot unless you guard him........defense is sub standard...............

Tamar Bates is an ex loosier with a BIG MOUTH and an average game....can make a 3 but doesn't do any else that stands out other than trash talking.....I look for him to try to start something to incite our team with his all star mouth.....his defense is easily exploited as he gets lost in the defensive end.......

Connor Vanover wears # 75 for a reason as he is 7'5" and a Bill Walton look a like.............But that's where the comparison ends as he has a 2" vertical and can be pushed around due to his skinny frame.....they have been increasing their alley oops to him when the guard is stopped in penetration but he can be contained inside our defensive scheme....JMHO

Aiden Shaw is a slim 6'8" frosh who plays hard , but not very smart......goes over the back on most rebound attempts and spends more time in foul trouble on the bench than on the court , at least in the 3-4 games I have watched.....has plenty of potential but now plays out of control like a bull in a china shop..........

Anthony Robinson II is a 6'2" frosh with plenty of defensive skills....he is adept with getting steals and heavy defensive pressure....how much he impact's the game will depend on how the game is called.....he is another misery player prone to foul trouble but he can be a force for them on D.............

I haven't seen enough of their games to comment on the remaining roster but those I listed above get the majority of playing time.........

My assessment of the upcoming game is they have no one who can contain TSJ and Domask.....if we continue our high FT % then I see a 10-15 point advantage and a win for the beloved.......if the game is called where they can hack and crowd the vertical of our team then it will be a pick'em type game......... players on each team will play with an intensity higher than a regular season game.....

This is always a nip and tuck game usually and I expect another game in that vein.....with that being said I think the game will be..........................................


Illini 80
misery 74

JMHO and LET'S GO ILLINI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice review Pru! Coach Underwood should easily out-coach Gates, and TSJ will effectively slow down Sean East II, but not vice-versa!
 
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My thoughts on misery......................

Beating misery starts and stops with containing Sean East II..........He is their engine per se , with the ability to score at all 3 levels....His 3 pt shooting has improved a lot......he has always been a driver to the rim and now he is looking to pass the ball back out when stopped on the drive......He is prone to foul trouble if the game is called tight.....sometimes he gets out of control if the opponents D is good enough to frustrate him in what he wants to do.......

Nick Honor is a fireplug in size but a good shooter from anywhere inside the center court line.......I have seen him make 30 footers and then have 2-3 airballs because he doesn't always get his footwork set right......he will drive the paint and get out of control and make bad passes as he jumps when contained and can have his passes picked off......plays ok defense and also is prone to foul trouble........

Noah Carter is a forward who wants to be a guard.....he loves to shoot 3's and will make about 1 out of 4 , but has been hot unless you guard him........defense is sub standard...............

Tamar Bates is an ex loosier with a BIG MOUTH and an average game....can make a 3 but doesn't do any else that stands out other than trash talking.....I look for him to try to start something to incite our team with his all star mouth.....his defense is easily exploited as he gets lost in the defensive end.......

Connor Vanover wears # 75 for a reason as he is 7'5" and a Bill Walton look a like.............But that's where the comparison ends as he has a 2" vertical and can be pushed around due to his skinny frame.....they have been increasing their alley oops to him when the guard is stopped in penetration but he can be contained inside our defensive scheme....JMHO

Aiden Shaw is a slim 6'8" frosh who plays hard , but not very smart......goes over the back on most rebound attempts and spends more time in foul trouble on the bench than on the court , at least in the 3-4 games I have watched.....has plenty of potential but now plays out of control like a bull in a china shop..........

Anthony Robinson II is a 6'2" frosh with plenty of defensive skills....he is adept with getting steals and heavy defensive pressure....how much he impact's the game will depend on how the game is called.....he is another misery player prone to foul trouble but he can be a force for them on D.............

I haven't seen enough of their games to comment on the remaining roster but those I listed above get the majority of playing time.........

My assessment of the upcoming game is they have no one who can contain TSJ and Domask.....if we continue our high FT % then I see a 10-15 point advantage and a win for the beloved.......if the game is called where they can hack and crowd the vertical of our team then it will be a pick'em type game......... players on each team will play with an intensity higher than a regular season game.....

This is always a nip and tuck game usually and I expect another game in that vein.....with that being said I think the game will be..........................................


Illini 80
misery 74

JMHO and LET'S GO ILLINI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice work there Pru. Good scouting report.
 
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