Is testimony alone considered evidence? I'm as far from being an attorney as one can get, but seems to me there is some DNA involved and likely phone records or even video of the incident. They wouldn't bring a case like this based on testimony alone.
Terrence Shannon Jr. suspended
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Is testimony alone considered evidence? I'm as far from being an attorney as one can get, but seems to me there is some DNA involved and likely phone records or even video of the incident. They wouldn't bring a case like this based on testimony alone.
I am a lawyer, a prosecutor to be specific. I handle sexual assault cases. Rape certainly a form of sexual assault. These cases can drag on for many months and even for more than a year or two. Certainly, this is far more significant than basketball. I do not know anything about the matter involving Mr Shannon. There will be multiple court dates in the months to come. If the case is not resolved by either some form of a plea of guilty or dismissal, the matter will eventually be set for trial. Unless the case is suddenly dismissed, which I seriously doubt it will be since a full investigation has already taken place, his basketball playing days at Illinois are finished.
skyIdub
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I believe a victims statement is all that is required. Then it is up to the DA to pursue charges.
sbillini
- st petersburg, fl
The speed and conviction with which people reach conclusions like these in these types of situations - with the amount of information we've been given - astounds me. I guess it's just the age we live in.
a terrible situation, indeed. For whom and to what extent, i guess we may or may not find out.
Darius Miles from Alabama continued to play last season even though he was charged with murder. He is still going through the courts claiming innocence, although no longer on the team. I wonder if there is any way Terrence will play, especially as he and his attorney are claiming complete innocence?
illini2225
- La Grange, Illinois
As a woman, an Illini basketball fan, and a law student this news has devastated me. Don't know what more to say at this point. Just heartbroken.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
As hopeful as this is, I truly hope our program standards are higher than Alabama. I am all in favor of winning, but not at all costs....and definitely not in the face of serious allegations.
I am certain that we have the perfect AD for this situation and he will proceed with diligence and duty to those standards.
Edit: just to clarify...if JDubs and the University determine that Shannon should be reinstated and allowed to play during the legal process....I am 100% fine with their decision.
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I just can't believe this. TJS seems like model athlete. If true My prayers go out to the young lady involved and hope for the best for her. My prayers also go out to TJS and his family. Best that we all wait to hear all the facts!
So if he is found innocent was it worth it to destroy this young man's career? Standards are relative.
I hope so.. Especially seeing the toxic nature of the Illinois fan base online. I see no benefit to releasing that information
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
yeah...i edited to clarify for this exact point..thanks!
Free TJ
My question is more about what is actually fair? I guess these days a person is actually guilty until proven innocent. The damages are so great in this case that if proven innocent someday, there is no way to recover the losses for TSJ, Underwood, UofI Basketball, etc. I would hate to have him play if he's actually guilty, but it is just as bad (imo) to punish him so severely if he is innocent. I guess this is why Josh gets paid the big bucks.
I wish the US legal system didn’t publish names of people charged with crimes before they’re convicted.
Wow, this really blows. I can understand a short suspension but to be kept from playing the rest of the year without a conviction is ridiculous. That is what the courts are for. Wasn't a former FSU quarterback accused of rape before his last year but wasn't settled till after he had been playing in the NFL for a few years. He never missed a game because of it or at least not until a ruling was made.
Agree. Accused should have the same rights as the accuser/victim.
No he didn’t. He played 6 games. Brandon Miller, who had no charges brought against him, but brought Miles his gun, was the one at the center of the controversy for not being suspended. Ultimately, this is similar to the TSJ situation - no charges, no suspension. Charges, suspension.
Based on your experience, is there any evidence that the DA is likely to have before charging someone like DNA, video evidence, a witness, etc?
frozenrope9190
- Aurora, IL
I haven't reached any conclusion about the case. My conclusion is that this is going to change the program and how it plays with it's remaining players with the new cloud hanging over it and how it's perceived nationwide as a basketball school, for rankings, recruitment, media discussions. We're gonna get talked about in this new light, deserved or not, for a long time.
That this is a program alterting event is an easy conclusion to reach.
This university cannot and should not be part of this process. JW's statement went a long way towards removing the university from the incident. They'll show their support for BOTH parties, but won't associate him with the program anymore. Like the rest of us, they'll sit back and will let the constitution work it's magic.
Thanks for sharing. Not trying to distract but here are some serious points about the DA.
"County records show that 10 attorneys’ employment with the DA’s office ended during her first year in office, including six who were hired by the previous administration and four who Valdez hired herself. Just one attorney whose employment began prior to 2021 remains with the office.
Eight additional DA’s office staff members’ employment ended within her first year in office; six of them had been hired under the previous administration. Altogether, employment ended for 18 out of 55 people (about 31%) who worked under Valdez during her first year in office, county records show. "
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