Terrence Shannon Jr. suspended

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As a woman, an Illini basketball fan, and a law student this news has devastated me. Don't know what more to say at this point. Just heartbroken.

Except for those folks closest to the players – family, friends, coaches – the majority of countless thousands of fans look at these young men/women who are college athletes as ball players only. I mean, how else can we know them? How else COULD we know them?

And being humans, these young athletes are going to reflect everything we see in all of society. All kinds of personalities from all kinds of places and backgrounds. Some great minds and thinkers. Some regular-type guys/girls just playing a game they love until they get out of school. And some troubled souls who are on a bad life path. And eveything in between. In short, Saints and Sinners and Stay-at-Home souls. A microcosm of all types of human beings.

I don’t think anyone honestly tries to fail in life or make terrible choices. Many of us do make bad decisions that we are indeed fully responsible for. But our background and upbringing does have something to do with the choices we make. And the people we hang around with. And the influence our parents and other family has on us. Yes, we are a complex mix. And some things that just uniquely our own.

As we all can agree... if the charges are legit this is sad on many levels. The consequences of this event will reach far and wide and for some time to come almost regardless of what happens next.

But when we do wrong... we do pay a price. Somehow, some way. In its own given timeframe.

Speaking in general and not specifically about this situation... the actions of any one person simply cannot be allowed to derail a sports team... an institution... the fan base... or the future of all of these together. You cannot allow a personal failure to fester and grow beyond its own tragic scope. Or poison others who had nothing to do with such a bad event.

All of us – women, men, young and old. At our base level we are the same. A creature mix of good things and not-so-good. Of potentials realized and potentials lost. Promises made and promises broken. A trail with many wins and many losses along the way.

When these kinds of sad events happen... feel bad for everyone involved. Feel compassion for victims (if there are any). And feel the tragic consequences that arise when we fail and fall short of our best. And the consquences that a doer of bad deeds will face, somehow.

And hope for redemption for everyone - and every thing – touched by such an event. Because Life -- and the games -- will still go on.
 
#206      
Wow, this really blows. I can understand a short suspension but to be kept from playing the rest of the year without a conviction is ridiculous. That is what the courts are for. Wasn't a former FSU quarterback accused of rape before his last year but wasn't settled till after he had been playing in the NFL for a few years. He never missed a game because of it or at least not until a ruling was made.
Unfortunately in the halls of academia, accusers are assumed guilty until proven innocent. If the U didn't take action there would be all kinds of uproar, especially as the allegation is sexual violence against a woman. There is no due process in the court of public opinion.
 
#207      
The real issue may be the victim's age. My mind is switching to protect the University, and I like the quick swift action.

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#216      
Wasn't the whole team on that trip to Kansas? Or was Shannon traveling separately?
 
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illini2225

La Grange, Illinois
Does this read as two options?? Rape or Sexual battery? Why does it say "In the Alternative"?
I believe it a tactic by the prosecution in which you charge the accused with the highest crime (in this case a felony) and also crimes of a lesser degree (in this case a misdemeanor) in order to boost your chance of getting some sort of conviction if the accused is not found guilty of the highest crime charged. Hence why the term "alternative" is used. If there is no merit to the higher charge, there still needs to be consideration given to the lower charge.

TLDR: prosecution is boosting its chance of a conviction by bringing multiple charges.
 
#223      
My first thoughts are with the parties involved in this situation, and hoping for justice above all else.

With that being said, from the team standpoint, let's support our guys and not give up on the season. They really need illini nation behind them because this is Earth-shattering to them as well. Brad can lead guys through adversity and we still have a lot of talent players and coaches who deserve our support.
 
#225      
Indy, can you add anything on the team side? What the crew is feeling/how it’s being processed?

I really am going to be very careful about the comments I make on this …

Leaking info on things like this is how you lose sources …

However I can say I’ve talked to players, staff, our athletic department, and TJ’s lawyer … I’ve got a pretty good idea of what we’re looking at …

As for the staff and players … We have got a game tomorrow and that’s their focus …
 
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