Terrence Shannon Jr. suspended
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Illini92and96
- Austin, TX
It's not too late. You can be the first to say he is the third best player in CBB?
The 80's belonged to the Illini.
Good times.
MustangWally
- Mayfield
I'm sure Dan has been keeping a close eye on this thread.
The Budweiser Clydesdales were, as well.. Much fun.
Unfortunately, I have a similar experience as a juror. Really made me appreciate that juries are designed to be an independent check on anything going on behind the scenes.
Sorry, but this one makes absolutely zero sense to me. So this girl had unconsensual sex with TSJ, but wanted to pursue a relationship with him? When he said no/ghosted her, suddenly she presses charges?
Quite a person that wants to be in a relationship with their rapist and only shouts out that it was rape when the rapist doesn’t want the relationship.
I can’t imagine the police would even take this seriously if they had the communication.
“Hey I want to be in a relationship with you”
“Sorry, I don’t want one with you”
“well then I no longer consent to the sex we I'm filing rape charges against you!”
It also really doesn’t line up with the overall timeline to me as far as it happening in September and investigation ongoing since Sept.
Captain 14
- The Last Best Place
Jim Thompson was instrumental in getting the first Farm AID into Memorial Stadium....in the 80s.
And he never did any prison time either.
It appears that you don't need to indict, and can proceed by filing an "Information," just like the procedure employed in many Illinois counties.
I would expect JW to only discuss timeline of what/when the DIA learned, how it responded according to the student and school policies that are in place, and what school procedures mandate going forward. I don’t think it’s going to be compelling TV.
Any details about “what happened” and/or the legal process in Kansas, will come from TSJ’s lawyers, at a time and manner of their choosing.
Any details about “what happened” and/or the legal process in Kansas, will come from TSJ’s lawyers, at a time and manner of their choosing.
illini2225
- La Grange, Illinois
That's so exciting! I hope you have a great time
My mom and I share a special love for the Illini and I'm hoping you and your daughter can develop the same!
Take the "unconsensual" out of your post and and the post you're addressing makes all kinds of sense.
Of all the scenarios presented so far, State of Chicago just really rings true. That's why Brad and Josh saw nothing wrong with letting Shannon play. They didn't think it was going anywhere. Not to say that B&J didn't sit down and have a long talk with Shannon...
GallopingGhost
- Denver, CO
I think a lot of people here are vying, angling, just blind wishing? for a possible return from TSJ this season. It’s just not likely, not at all.
I think a lawyer posted here earlier already that if there is a long process of hearings, even before going to trial. This wasn’t just an accusation. This was a charge. With witnesses ready to testify the story.
I want him back as bad as the next guy but this will not be a 3 month process, and this is not a situation in which Josh or Brad would reinstate him before the justice system clears him. even if he pleas the lesser charge, he’s likely still suspended. Only situation of a “short term” suspension is a dropped charge. Which seems unlikely.
We need to look forward, support TJ until the truth comes out, and focus on the team we have and the road ahead.
I think a lawyer posted here earlier already that if there is a long process of hearings, even before going to trial. This wasn’t just an accusation. This was a charge. With witnesses ready to testify the story.
I want him back as bad as the next guy but this will not be a 3 month process, and this is not a situation in which Josh or Brad would reinstate him before the justice system clears him. even if he pleas the lesser charge, he’s likely still suspended. Only situation of a “short term” suspension is a dropped charge. Which seems unlikely.
We need to look forward, support TJ until the truth comes out, and focus on the team we have and the road ahead.
illinifan31
Former Krush Cow
- South Bend, IN
I saw that text shown in the tweet hours before it was tweeted but in an extra layer of screen shot. I have no idea on it's veracity, but that person didn't make it up or photoshop anything. That image of the event description is floating around all over.
One of the few governors that can make that claim.
The scary part of it is a DA with an agenda can do a ton of damage to a person even in a jury eventually finds them innocent. Not saying that is the case here, just in general.
Absolutely correct. Two Ohio State football players were charged with rape for an incident that happened in February of 2o20 and they went to trial in February of 2023. Both found not guilty but they lost their opportunity to compete. This will not be resolved soon unless there is a plea deal or a withdrawal of the charges against him. I would rate both as unlikely.
And something additional is also needed.
Most anyone in the Corporate World today is subjected to training seminars about how to conduct yourself at all times and avoid words and situations that could constitute harassment and the like. Conducting a proper atmosphere and avoiding lawsuits and potential media difficulties and such.
Players today are going to need deeper corporate-level training in such matters since they are now virtual professionals with a need for handlers and public relations people and money advisers. At the very least, athletes are now personal ‘corporate’ entities unto themselves and they will need all of the associated corporate-style arms to serve and protect them.
Athletes need greater counseling and advising on how to handle fame, fortune, temptation, and being major public figures.
Not only is this Shannon issue going to be personal to the Illini family... but it should have wider-reaching implications for the college sports business in general.
One has to wonder how many phones have rung and texts sent all around the Nation from sports insiders to their given people and institutions.
And what a game it was.
Illini92and96
- Austin, TX
Take it for what it’s worth, but my grapevine (friend’s kid who knew about sky and Epps beforehand) tied to the story told here, with an added wrinkle she has done this type of thing multiple time before. *IF* that were the case, it changes everything and makes it sound like a duke lacrosse situation.
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Unfortunately, men and women have consensual one night stands one person may not want to date or a relationship
(especially when the live 8 hours away or traveling) but some may. If this report is correct an 18 year old woman in this case or others in these situatoins like in my past may or did. In the past I've seen from others that were hurt emotionally for choosing to have a one night stand be livid a few times spread lies and rumors about others but the difference is they just talked crap or were emotional. They didn't cry rape after they were rejected. I don't know if that tweet is true but that type of thing has happens and one party can be very upset by rejection the days or weeks after.
If JW and BU have known of this situation for months and didn't kick him off the team this would be one of the few scenarios were he could play. If the evidence or information said otherwise he would have been booted long ago.
Anyway, hopefully the details can be sorted out and I still can't see TSJ raping anyone. I just don't buy it.
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Jury selection procedures make it impossible for one side or the other to stack a jury. Both sides receive a limited number of "peremptory challanges," 7 each in felony cases if my old retired memory still works, which allow them to remove a juror without articulating a reason for excusing them, but when those are gone the only thing remaining are "challanges for cause," and those are not routinely granted.
I've not seen any indications it'll be aired live; very likely Werner or Piper will post the full video of it after the fact though. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong
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