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Mr. Tibbs

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By the way, I'm glad you brought this up, because this is a great example of the type of media firestorm the University will be inviting if it allows Terrence to play.
if the TRO is granted, BU has no choice but to play him or quit coaching
noise about this from talking HEADS MEANS NOTHING.
if BU or JW is bothered by it, they should not be doing what they are doing. I strongly suspect they are more than willing and able to take the heat
 
#102      

Chad Fleck

Eureka, IL
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I have said this at least ten times-the TRO is not the end all be all here. I am very optimistic that he will be back on the court this year, and I have good reason to be. There are a number of things in the works, this is just the first effort to get him out there on the court. We will see what happens then go from there
Respect your opinions but I think you are looking for a hail mary here. Best chance to play this year is the case being dropped/settled. Otherwise, what are the other options? If TRO is granted before court case is resolved, I think highly unlikely BU plays him. Waiting for this to play out in court is likely not going to be resolved in a timely manner either. Perhaps there could be some compelling new evidence that comes out that encourages the university panel to reconsider their decision, but given the information that has been released so far, this may be wishful thinking.
 
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I don’t agree with #2. Geoff didnt make that suggestion as a friend. He’s in a position of power and by default an extension of the university.
There's certainly a reasonable question of fact there. Evidence that the UI pointed to includes the fact that the manager does not report to Alexander and that as an hourly employee, he did not report the time and was not paid for it. TSJ, who apparently previously had been in an accident due to fatigued driving, was going to be doing a total of 12 hours of driving in a very short time in order to return to C-U at 8 a.m. Sunday for an NIL event. Alexander made the reasonable mature-person suggestion that he get someone to help with the driving.

I assume that Alexander suggested the manager because he knew him, he was there and he was TSJ's friend/roommate. Despite the lack of a technical boss-employee relationship or any attempt to make this an official work function, you can make the argument that Alexander as a superior essentially directed the manager to do the driving. We'll see if the judge agrees and if that constitutes enough University involvement to invoke Title IX.
 
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theNewGuy

Dallas, TX
I would be shocked if this makes it to trial
Kinda seems like the LPD did a really lazy job of gathering evidence in the first place, which then led the DA, that ran her whole campaign for DA on cracking down on sexual assaults, to press charges SO that the LPD would be forced to collect more evidence.
 
#112      
This is pretty purely a semantics thing, but just want to point out that the accuser and her friend's statements are indeed evidence. As is TSJ's statements that he didn't do it.

So there is evidence in this case. Whether it's strong enough or not is up to interpretation of a judge and/or jury, but it is evidence.
 
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no. this is the hearing that would happen in 10ish days if the judge grants it. this would be the big one, the permanent one where he would likely be with the team the rest of the year. Both sides would have evidence to present and then go from there
I’m sure Alexander and Whitman will be happy to welcome TSJ back after being cross examined by his representatives at the PI hearing.
 
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I have said this at least ten times-the TRO is not the end all be all here. I am very optimistic that he will be back on the court this year, and I have good reason to be. There are a number of things in the works, this is just the first effort to get him out there on the court. We will see what happens then go from there
I think most of us, myself included understand this isn't the end, but I think my optimism has gone down (and possibly others) because it appears the panel is reliant on the charges for their determination. So if the TRO gets shut down, we'll need something additional to happen outside the university. Maybe it will in the upcoming court dates, but if the Lawrence DA holds their ground, which seems much more likely than not at this point, I think things start getting much more difficult. As I said, I hope I'm wrong, and you have a lot of knowledge behind the scenes, but from my own experiences and knowledge with the legal system, it doesn't breed a whole lot of confidence TSJ will get a fair shake.
 
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I would be shocked if this makes it to trial
I'm with you- I don't see how it would be remotely possible to bring this case to trial at this point. I think the problem is that if this is as you say, and what the evidence thus far has been pointing to, if a DA is either stubborn or vindictive enough, they have no issue dragging this out as long as possible before dropping it, and well after the end of the season.
 
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I'm with you- I don't see how it would be remotely possible to bring this case to trial at this point. I think the problem is that if this is as you say, and what the evidence thus far has been pointing to, if a DA is either stubborn or vindictive enough, they have no issue dragging this out as long as possible before dropping it, and well after the end of the season.

Have seen many, many trials occur with no real evidence outside of the accuser's testimony. Maybe it's just the jurisdiction here, but an accuser's word seems to carry a great enough weight that they can continue a case. Granted, the bulk of cases I'm familiar with are domestic abuse/battery cases and not rape. Also, I'm not a lawyer. :)
 
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I'm with you- I don't see how it would be remotely possible to bring this case to trial at this point. I think the problem is that if this is as you say, and what the evidence thus far has been pointing to, if a DA is either stubborn or vindictive enough, they have no issue dragging this out as long as possible before dropping it, and well after the end of the season.
Crappy cases go to trial every day. I've seen some where the jury deliberates less than 30 mins. One was 10 minutes which means they walked into the jury room, took a quick vote, signed the guilty or not guilty form, grabbed their personal belongings and walked back into court. Cases are not dismissed by a judge just because the evidence is lacking (that possibility is only at the PH stage with the prosecutor unable to get over the low hurdle of probable cause).
Cases are dismissed for a wide variety of reasons (virtually always on the prosecutor's motion) but not because the case is a piece of crap. If the prosecutor (and the victim) wish to proceed on a bad case and have a jury turnaround in 10 mins with a verdict they can do so.
 
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Respect your opinions but I think you are looking for a hail mary here. Best chance to play this year is the case being dropped/settled. Otherwise, what are the other options? If TRO is granted before court case is resolved, I think highly unlikely BU plays him. Waiting for this to play out in court is likely not going to be resolved in a timely manner either. Perhaps there could be some compelling new evidence that comes out that encourages the university panel to reconsider their decision, but given the information that has been released so far, this may be wishful thinking.
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All this legal conjecture is having the Charlie Brown teacher effect on me.
 
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