Northwestern 96, Illinois 91 OT Postgame

#326      
Most of the posts here criticize the defense tonite. Ty (one of our best defenders) scores 7 points in18 minutes. Harmon who is not a good defender scores 6 points in 28 minutes against a team who plays 3 guards most of the time. This was poor player time management in this game
 
#327      
They made a bunch of step-back 3's and we couldn't make layups. The guys played hard but made a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes on defense.
Credit NW, they played excellent basketball. They played to their strengths, and a couple guys stepped up. It just wasn't our night. (unlike the game in Champaign)

Let's take it out on Indiana on Saturday.
 
#330      

TheDukeUIUC

Twin Cities, MN
Just looking at the video there....what slap down??? He poked that ball out without contact....The NW dude did step on Coleman's foot, which is probably the main reason they called a foul (because all together, it looks like he fouls him because of the step and stumble.)
He gets the northwestern player on the leg on the follow-through after the ball is knocked loose from what I recall. Keep watching his hand and it's makes contact with the guys thigh.
 
#331      

skyIdub

Winged Warrior
Let’s not overthink this one. Even with the defense switching for iso Boo, and NW hitting everything, we get 4 or 5 layups to drop it’s a 10 pt win on the road.
And we still had a Domask mid range for the win, which I’ll take all day.
One team was bound to go cold after that 2nd half shooting show.
I’m not even sure putting Ty in would have stopped Boo. We employed a similar strategy with Maryland and let Cliff get his 1v1, held the guards in check.
1v1 vs Boo didn’t work out so well. NW shot almost 60% for a long stretch of the game, so not just Boo.
No hot takes on this one.
Make shots, win…miss shots, lose.
 
#332      
The issue last night was the defense and the switching in the 2nd half just like Brad said. I don’t get why they never realized that we couldn’t switch Domask or Goode onto Buie. Great to mention that postgame but it’s a little late.
Yes...this 100X over. If they realized this (and WE realized this), why no adjustment to stop doing it? I love Brad, but his inability to make in game adjustments is infuriating and confounding.
 
#333      
Underwood doesn't believe in getting tired. I hope he starts. This was alarming when he said it a couple games ago.
I like to think some of that is hyperbole/deflecting the media in the moment. ( He’s got a clear knack for that.)

He also once said: “ I don’t believe in rebuilds. I really don’t.” Uhhh???

I’d be willing to bet about a good 3.5-4 years later he started to believe in ‘em. Lol
 
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#334      

Illini2010-11

Sugar Grove
On the flagrant one foul on Shannon why did he only get two free throws? He was fouled in the act of shooting shouldn’t he have gotten three?
No. It is two shots and the ball. I do not think it matters if he was shooting or not. I have never heard being awarded more than two free throws with a flagrant foul, unless there was a subsequent technical foul called.

The main benefit of the call was additional possession of the ball after free throws shot.
 
#335      

altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
When BU said he had chicken wings thrown at him previously at Maryland, I was taken aback by that. What kind of classless fans do that? That's like Philly level of classless.
You've obviously not enjoyed the warmth and hospitality afforded opposing fans at the Xfinity Center. I have, unfortunately, on multiple occasions.

You are spot on. however, in your analogy: "Philly level of classless." Terp fans are nothing if not aspirational.
 
#336      
This loss is not the same as the Maryland loss. The Maryland game was just us being bad. Our offense looked terrible, no movement against Maryland. Our offense looked fine after a slow (or going too fast) start in the first half.

We played a great game offensively, but really they rolled or bounced one in for every shot we had roll off the rim.

My first real issue with Hummel was him talking at length against the F1 foul on TJ. Yes, Berry was going after the ball, but he still smoked TJ in the face. You can't judge intent. The defender has to be in control so he doesn't more or less punch another player in the face.
 
#337      
I know everyone is frustrated but this is going to be the type of loss that serves this team well down the stretch. Uconn last year had a few close loses like this is January, but it served them better down the road. This team is good enough to go to the final 4 and beyond, just need to keep working on a couple things. Once Shannon gets back to himself, that will change everything
 
#339      

the national

the Front Range
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#342      
Incredible game. Sucks to come away with an L. Really two sides to this one though...hate that we lost, hate the lack of defensive adjustments, hate seeing Boo do Boo things to us. That kids really something and I tip my hat. At the same time, this is a reminder that this team is really good. Northwestern gave us their A++ game at home with an insane 63% 3pt clip. Throw in all those missed layups and our star still shaking off rust. Impressive we nearly took that game
 
#343      
Would be sending a real message if Brad just started to eat it if it was a full wing lol
Mr Bean Eating GIF
 
#344      
Let’s not overthink this one. Even with the defense switching for iso Boo, and NW hitting everything, we get 4 or 5 layups to drop it’s a 10 pt win on the road.
And we still had a Domask mid range for the win, which I’ll take all day.
One team was bound to go cold after that 2nd half shooting show.
I’m not even sure putting Ty in would have stopped Boo. We employed a similar strategy with Maryland and let Cliff get his 1v1, held the guards in check.
1v1 vs Boo didn’t work out so well. NW shot almost 60% for a long stretch of the game, so not just Boo.
No hot takes on this one.
Make shots, win…miss shots, los
Wish we would have thrown a double at him to force the ball out of his hands on that last play. We didn't really stop anyone this game so it might not have mattered but make someone else beat you in crunch time.
 
#345      
I know everyone is frustrated but this is going to be the type of loss that serves this team well down the stretch. Uconn last year had a few close loses like this is January, but it served them better down the road. This team is good enough to go to the final 4 and beyond, just need to keep working on a couple things. Once Shannon gets back to himself, that will change everything
I think it's still totally fine for Shannon to have some rust right now. Kinda figured the dude could pick up right where he left off because he's such a stud, but he's human and that's perfectly fine. Good learning lesson as a fan. Anyways, what do we think is a reasonable expectation in terms of timing to see Shannon back in his groove?
 
#346      
You've obviously not enjoyed the warmth and hospitality afforded opposing fans at the Xfinity Center. I have, unfortunately, on multiple occasions.

You are spot on. however, in your analogy: "Philly level of classless." Terp fans are nothing if not aspirational.
Yeah. If I remember correctly they've also thrown batteries, coins, and trash at not only opposing teams and players, but even their families watching them play. Maryland has been one of the absolute worst behaved college fanbases for a very long time, since well before they joined the B10. Whenever Duke or UNC played them there were always ugly incidents. I'm completely serious when I say that I just hope our players leave College Park safely, and I would strongly recommend TSJ's family not attend that one.

It's easy for people to say tune it out, but the Northwestern fans were a walk in the park compared to what's coming. MSU will be a very tough environment for TSJ, but Maryland... it's going to be really really ugly.
 
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#347      

Illini2010-11

Sugar Grove

I dont know how anyone can trust this dude to win the big games. there's ALWAYS an excuse.
No offense, but using this statistic is a very lazy way of fitting a particular negative narrative.

Last season the team had many known flaws, and still had a chance of making noise last year. Not to mention, a vast majority of those quad 1 losses were road B1G games. It is hard to win on the road in the B1G, especially given how deep the conference was last year. This season, the team has struggled a bit in Quad 1 games, but outside of Marquette and the clunker against Maryland, these Quad 1 losses were true road games. Some of the other wins might move up to Quad 1 depending on how the season plays out. While it looks disappointing, I take that statistic with a huge grain of salt.

Do you not recall winning the B1G tourney (should have been tied with Michigan for B1G champs) and getting a 1 seed in 2021; winning B1G regular season title in 2022, and making the tourney safely three straight years (4 if you include COVID cancelled season)?

This team has won many big games the last few years, we just have not had the success we wanted in the NCAA Tourney. This season still has a ways to go, but there is reason to believe that this team can make a deep run. This narrative is very weak IMO.
 
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#348      
Fair enough… imagine 3,500 people chanting at you about the worst moment of your life on live TV. I’m not arguing whether it’s right or wrong. Honestly it doesn’t matter. I’m just saying let’s not act like any of us could shrug that off. TJ didn’t play great, and I can understand why.
Except when the Krush did it to the Iowa kid, someone came over and told the Krush to stop. I think it was the Illini coaching staff. Hard to remember that far back.
 
#349      

Bigtex

DFW
Brad went to that 5 man switching defense ...

You start having guys do ISO stuff and not what Brad wants ... You get what we had last year ...

Brad needs to take the blame for the defense and make an adjustment going forward ...
my frustration was that NW wasn't forcing the switch with strong picks - just bringing a guy to top of the key and we kept switching unnecessarily. So tired of watching multiple players go OFF on us without doing something different.