The victim doesn't count as an eyewitness so it's literally zero eyewitnesses.And - obviously IANAL - how the f*** does one eyewitness testimony overrule reasonable doubt arising from Z-E-R-O DNA evidence tying Shannon to the incident?!
The victim doesn't count as an eyewitness so it's literally zero eyewitnesses.And - obviously IANAL - how the f*** does one eyewitness testimony overrule reasonable doubt arising from Z-E-R-O DNA evidence tying Shannon to the incident?!
The released legal documents. There's been hundreds of pages, it's all in there.Sources?
Sue who? Doesn't work that way.I hope TSJ sues and wins a large lawsuit. This seems pretty reckless to have brought charges before DNA. If they had prior knowledge of DNA and still brought charges I would say criminally reckless.
At this point, it should be about TSJ reputation. I honestly thought the national perception of the Illini would have been much more hostile then it was.When a major TV personality on a prime time broadcast during the lead up to March madness absolutely dogging our program, coach and player….it matters. He should have to apologize. People painted us in an awful light because of that
He can sue the county like Albert Wilson is. No DNA and no witnesses? At least recover legal damages over frivolous prosecution.Sue who? Doesn't work that way.
He could sue the alleged victim for malicious prosecution. In theory he could sue the prosecutor as well but that's a much higher burden since they enjoy more immunity in these situations and TSJ would basically have to show that they went far beyond the scope of their duties. This usually only happens when it's proof they either fabricated evidence or withheld evidence showing a full exoneration but went forth with charges anyway.Sue who? Doesn't work that way.
As in Nifong by Duke lacrosse playersHe could sue the alleged victim for malicious prosecution. In theory he could sue the prosecutor as well but that's a much higher burden since they enjoy more immunity in these situations and TSJ would basically have to show that they went far beyond the scope of their duties. This usually only happens when it's proof they either fabricated evidence or withheld evidence showing a full exoneration but went forth with charges anyway.
Tell me more about "he should have to" - I'm curious about how you propose to enforce this proclamation.When a major TV personality on a prime time broadcast during the lead up to March madness absolutely dogging our program, coach and player….it matters. He should have to apologize. People painted us in an awful light because of that
Lord Voldemort: Harbaugh is a good guy, totally not his fault he got suspended twice in the same season for cheating in two separate ways.TSJr isn't totally out of the woods yet, but his defense got a lot stronger. DNA provides no proof that Shannon touched her, let alone penetrated her. Unless the prosecution finds a really strong eyewitness this probably gets dropped before trial.
Parrish is an embarrassment to all media. Not even sure I’d classify him as media anymore more like comedy.Words can’t explain how badly I wish everyone who bad mouthed him would be held accountable. Especially those with a big public national media platform like Gary Parrish.
So many fans bad mouthing us for supporting our guy because we believed in the facts and his character.
I hope TSJ rightfully is selected to be a first round draft pick this summer and prove everyone he deserves every bit of his flowers.
No, she didn't say her back was to him. She said she saw him from across the room, he called her over to him, she left the room, talked to her friend about it, went back in the room and went over to him, he pulled her to him and goped her.RE: your first part, wasn’t it in the police affidavit that she had to go home and Google athletes from Illinois, KU and KSU, though? While that alone doesn’t indicate a mistaken identity (she could have totally recognized Terence right away but had no idea what team he played for, for example), didn’t it also say she had her back to the man during the entire incident? If so, I’m skeptical she even KNEW who to “identify,” so how unique Terence looks is relevant to me than it would be otherwise. Honestly can’t remember every little detail of this case, though.
His employer, a judge (not really), or his wife (if applicable) should hold him accountable for the things he said. It’s 2024, just do the Twitter apology, although TSJ deserves for it to be a spoken video apologyTell me more about "he should have to" - I'm curious about how you propose to enforce this proclamation.
I think it would have been had the facts indicated a more guilty tone than what was happening in this situationAt this point, it should be about TSJ reputation. I honestly thought the national perception of the Illini would have been much more hostile then it was.
I am a retired lawyer. The jury rules only on the evidence that it hears. If the DNA evidence is excluded at the Daubert hearing, they won't know whether any DNA tests were taken, nor will they know how those tests came out.And - obviously IANAL - how the f*** does one eyewitness testimony overrule reasonable doubt arising from Z-E-R-O DNA evidence tying Shannon to the incident?!
So given that YAAL and IANAL does it seem strange that the defense would be trying to get the DNA evidence thrown out? Or is the hearing to rule on what inferences can be made during the trial?I am a retired lawyer. The jury rules only on the evidence that it hears. If the DNA evidence is excluded at the Daubert hearing, they won't know whether any DNA tests were taken, nor will they know how those tests came out.
It is reminding of the Duke LaCross case. 5 or 7 male DNA vaginal samples, none matching the accused. She walks away unscathed after stealing a car and the DA gets disbarred.Oh, someone posted the whole thing on Twitter.
Gonna keep reading here, but at a glance this looks EXTREMELY good for TSJ. All the DNA found was very inconclusive, and the best sample they got expressly excluded him.
Maybe the Daubert motion is seeking to draw favorable boundaries on what the expert can and can't say, but this report is TSJ's whole case.
I am warming to the notion that this case is a dead duck.
If (and admittedly it's a big if) it can be proven that the prosecutor and plaintiff both knew TSJ was not part of this and proceeded to move forward anyway, you can make a civil defamation case.Sue who? Doesn't work that way.
Use to be a saying....can't get blood from a turnip....that probably applies here... and the fact that it would only prolong the incident for TSJ and his family with likelihood very little to be gained....but I agree the court system needs to pursue the alleged victim if proof can be made she lied under oathHe could sue the alleged victim for malicious prosecution. In theory he could sue the prosecutor as well but that's a much higher burden since they enjoy more immunity in these situations and TSJ would basically have to show that they went far beyond the scope of their duties. This usually only happens when it's proof they either fabricated evidence or withheld evidence showing a full exoneration but went forth with charges anyway.
To me, this wouldn't be an avenue I would recommend unless there is clear and convincing evidence where the victim knowingly fabricated facts. This would just keep him further exposed to relitigating the issue altogether with the alleged victim at least trying to show it was possible he was a perpetrator.
You can find the complete motion and the six page report here:I am a Forensic DNA analyst for a living. I really wish I could see all 6 pages of that report. That little blip that Ked is showing is specifically talking about YSTR analysis. We are talking about crazy small amounts of male DNA here. Likely nanograms per microliter. YSTR only present in those that have a Y-Chromosme and inherited the same all up and down a males line. My Dad, me and me son all have the same YSTR profile barring some crazy mutation. That meaning they are not unique to inviduals like the other DNA analysis we can do.
Great to see TSJ excluded. I'm sure there were quite a few other samples taken from her.
It is not uncommon to get multiple male mixtures from these YSTR profiles. The test is so sensitive.