Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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RabidDawgClassic
ChiefGritty said:
To the extent there's a complaint it's the way the insider rumor mill trashes our players on the way out the door, which I have always found deplorable.

But it's not really a complaint, it's just a challenge. We've got a WILDLY talented team coming in, that is also a WILDLY young team.

The prospect of keeping major pieces together for multiple seasons is extremely exciting. But that has been a repeated problem for us.

BU gets players. If this blows up again he'll land on his feet again. But the REAL score here, the "lets talk about a National Title" level ambition, comes from retaining this core in a way that remains a question mark.

The NBA will take what the NBA takes, but we want to be a place freshmen want to become sophomores at.
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How many of the “insider rumors” have turned out to not be accurate?
 
#328      
New Creation
Bigtex said:
lets pump the brakes on Ivisic heading to the NBA. I do think he will be a good fit on 24-25 Illinois basketball. Reportedly his twin brother is the better basketball player and got a latter start last year after migrating through admissions. But his game and stats are not screaming NBA

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GPMINFG%3P%FT%REBASTBLKSTLPFTOPTS
1511.757.737.577.33.30.61.30.31.51.05.5
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at 22 minutes a game not 11. it looks more like this \

PTS: 12
REB: 6.6
AST: 1.2
FG% 57.5
BLK: 2.6

Those numbers are much better when not being featured.

DONOVAN CLINGAN​


The possible #1 overall pick this years stats below

PTS: 13.0
REB: 7.4
AST: 1.5
FG%: 63.9
BLK: 2.5

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GPMINFG%3P%FT%REBASTBLKSTLPFTOPTS
3522.663.925.058.37.41.52.50.52.00.813.0
3913.165.50.051.75.60.51.80.41.91.06.9

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#329      
AZILL
Gritty, I've not seen this 'trashing of players on their way out ' by our insiders. Yes, they've hinted or outright said some players were leaving. The reasons for which in some cases we find out, others not so much..... But I don't consider saying things that have turned out to be truth, as 'trashing' a player. Saying the staff will bring in better players, is not 'trashing' players who leave, it's turned out to be truth. I could be viewing all this from 20k and 10 degrees right of center, and you are viewing it from 10k feet 10 left of center, so our viewpoints are skewed, but in the end, we are seeing the exact same thing.... right?
 
#333      
Poe's Law
AZILL said:
Gritty, I've not seen this 'trashing of players on their way out ' by our insiders. Yes, they've hinted or outright said some players were leaving. The reasons for which in some cases we find out, others not so much..... But I don't consider saying things that have turned out to be truth, as 'trashing' a player. Saying the staff will bring in better players, is not 'trashing' players who leave, it's turned out to be truth. I could be viewing all this from 20k and 10 degrees right of center, and you are viewing it from 10k feet 10 left of center, so our viewpoints are skewed, but in the end, we are seeing the exact same thing.... right?
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Clark and Epps might have bordered on getting trashed, but one quit mid season and the other refused to go back into a game so maybe not as clear cut as the cell block tango, but might have had it coming. Also the whole Mark Smith saga.

Next closest I can recall is people saying you couldn’t build a title contender with Dain as the center piece.

FI_8905 did allude to maybe we were getting staff spin on Butlers decommit. I think some on here implied he was soft for not being willing to compete for playing time, but don’t feel like we trashed him. If I had to guess Twitter probably got a little nasty, but just a hunch.
 
#335      
TonyClifton
Dan said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1806098025955098995

https://twitter.com/x/status/1806096897137889760
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#339      
ptgrd23
That is vertical jump - add on top he is 6'8"

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#341      
Uihoop2023!
hoopsfan47 said:
It is due to starting as many as three frosh that I am tempered in my hopes of a season that will approach last year's results. Having watched my beloved Illini hoopsters over the past 70 years, I do not recall any that have depended so much on freshmen stalwarts that have contended for a B1G title. That said, I don't recall a plethora of frosh talent at this level....and yet it all comes back to one thing...they will be freshmen. But I am also grateful for the seasoned vets in Boswell, Hummer, Ty, and White who I hope can lead these guys to a un-suspected level of play.
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Dee , deron and James all got big minutes as freshmen
 
#342      
OrangeKrush1981
chudaman said:
Morez says: "What?!?"
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And he should say that. Give the young man a chance to show what he can do. I don't know what all that is, though he is a terrific recruit. But if I was so lucky as to coach him, I would remind him every day that he has the chance to be one of the greats even though there are doubts about that. Don't YOU doubt yourself, Morez.
 
#344      
PasadenaIllini
That team also had an all Big Ten Senior Brian Cook on it for experienced leadership. Sean Harrington was another key senior on that team. There really aren't any similar experienced veteran leaders on the team this coming season.
 
#347      
illinifan1987
At least he admitted it was the biggest mistake of his life! That still doesn't make it any better though.
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#348      
IlliniFan42
jamarvelous31 said:
What is the actual complaint here? They were an old team that was going to lose their 4 best players and 5 of their top 7 this offseason. Coleman/Goode were ready to go and aren't a number 1 or 2 guy (each said the former themselves).

They had to rebuild a core and did so. If it was all 1 year rentals I'd understand the complaint but the guys leftover were not as good as the 7 current/frmr top 60 recruits all with multiple years of eligibility they brought in.

The guys they've shed the last few years either had obvious problems (Curbelo/Epps/Clark) or weren't getting minutes b/c of their D (Dainja) or it just didn't work out & they were happier elsewhere (WVU guys/Goode/Coleman/Miller/Podz). Were any of those really stage-managed?
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Yeah, this is what I meant. I didn't need to hear any insider info to conclude that the guys we're losing were routinely worse than the guys we're bringing in. (Or in Coleman's case it was just time to move on and I appreciate him not gumming up our recruiting.)
 
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