The thing to alway a remember whenever you’re wondering why the Hell the Bears are doing whatever stupid thing they’re doing: their organizational flowchart looks like a ball of yarn.
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yup . this has sh!t show written all over it
as if Warren is doing such a great job with the stadium project
my lord
mattcoldagelli
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Someone just needs to square the circle that Ben Johnson is soaking up all the knee-biting leaderism!
They can never get everyone pulling in the same direction at the same time.
They let a lame duck GM trade draft capital to draft fields for a lame duck head coach. The new coach and GM then aren’t invested in Fields’ success.
In the interim their president retires and they hire a new president who isn’t invested in the new coach or GM’s success.
They ship out Fields and draft Williams but keep a lame duck head coach.
And now the new president who isn’t invested in the GM’s success wants to hire a head coach who will likely have differing philosophies on schemes, player fits etc. than the GM. But the new coach has no incentives to cooperate with the GM because the GM’s boss hired the coach, not the GM.
And so it goes…
Well laid out.
The recurring pattern since Papa Bear retired as GM after 1973.
Battle89
- Cary-Grove, the better Trojan team
If you had told me 20 years ago how little pro sports I watch now, I would not have believed you.
My split today is probably 75% Illini, 20% other college, and 5% pro (basically Blackhawks when they are decent).
One other point is the counter factual. Had everything worked out this season and Waldron was a smashing success with Williams, he is probably going to get hired as a head coach and you have to start over with Williams anyways. Which is why you don’t keep even a competent defensive minded head coach (let alone Flus) after you draft a generational QB prospect # 1 overall.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Warren did get Arlington Heights to cave on the property tax issue the other week, in fairness.
I remain convinced that's where it will end up.
This sounds like a Mike Vrabel type hire, which I'd be fine with, as long as they hire coordinators that can actually do their jobs and not have the HC yank the playbook. This only works if the McCaskey's open up the wallet to get a good head coach and really good assistants.
Bears have plan for next head coach: Chicago pinpoints this criteria and one surprising name could be in mix
Some big names could be in the mix in Chicagowww.cbssports.com
Disaster incoming.
If I were Poles, I'd resign immediately. He's been emasculated publicly that he's not allowed the do his job. He's got no ties to Warren, so he's pretty much one season from an axe.
Get out ASAP.
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
- Des Moines, IA
I genuinely wonder if that's the intention for what Warren did. If that's the case, it's a pretty low maneuver and one that's clearly designed to force Poles' hand to resign.
I understand wanting your own GM and coach if you are a team president. So just go ahead and fire the GM and the coach like the Chargers did around this time last season. Start totally fresh and with a GM who can really drive the head coach hire.
ND’s Marcus Freeman also qualifies as this “leader of men” type:
(Not a fan of this candidate.)
NFL Rumors: Notre Dame's Marcus Freeman Linked to Bears HC Job After Eberflus Firing
Peter Schrager of Fox Sports noted that the Chicago Bears coaching search would likely knock on the doors of several expected candidates, including former…
syndication.bleacherreport.com
(Not a fan of this candidate.)
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Hasn't ND been objectively worse since he took over for Brian Kelly?ND’s Marcus Freeman also qualifies as this “leader of men” type:
NFL Rumors: Notre Dame's Marcus Freeman Linked to Bears HC Job After Eberflus Firing
Peter Schrager of Fox Sports noted that the Chicago Bears coaching search would likely knock on the doors of several expected candidates, including former…syndication.bleacherreport.com
(Not a fan of this candidate.)
meh
pretty much the same
Then this is the perfect hire!
mattcoldagelli
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ND’s Marcus Freeman also qualifies as this “leader of men” type:
NFL Rumors: Notre Dame's Marcus Freeman Linked to Bears HC Job After Eberflus Firing
Peter Schrager of Fox Sports noted that the Chicago Bears coaching search would likely knock on the doors of several expected candidates, including former…syndication.bleacherreport.com
(Not a fan of this candidate.)
Is ESPN 1000's Facebook page running this search?
It can’t be financed in Arlington Heights.
They absolutely cannot go the college direction again.ND’s Marcus Freeman also qualifies as this “leader of men” type:
NFL Rumors: Notre Dame's Marcus Freeman Linked to Bears HC Job After Eberflus Firing
Peter Schrager of Fox Sports noted that the Chicago Bears coaching search would likely knock on the doors of several expected candidates, including former…syndication.bleacherreport.com
(Not a fan of this candidate.)
This is a locker room that is going to be fractured by year end(if not already) and there are a couple of very strong personalities in the roster, not to mention a second year QB that is going to be in desperate need of structure. How many voices will have been in his ear calling plays after this year? Three?
With all of the brutal pre-snap penalties on offense, guys apparently not knowing the rules and making the same mistake multiple times(Kmet), receivers not completing their routes or coming back for the ball(Moore), jumping offsides on hard counts, etc.....they really require a guy who is respected and can instill structure and discipline.
This is not an indictment on Freeman. There is not one college coach that's going to come in and demand that type of immediate respect. There is no Harbaugh caliber presence available.
Will they spend money and can they find a guy who will be working for a potentially lame duck GM. We've all said this for years now and it hasn't happened, but can they align the President, with the GM, with the HC and with the coordinators, so there isn't turnover.....again.
To me, that requires either a full commitment to Poles or fire him at the end of the year.
Poles is not a Kevin Warren hire. I think that Warren wants his choice of a GM and his GM is going through want to choose his HC and his HC is going to want his choice of coordinators.
Will this happen? Answer..... there isn't a snowball's chance in he!! that they create a solid structure and spend the money needed to do it correctly. It's not the McCaskey way.
Don't think that's accurate. His first season started out disastrously at 0-2, but he rallied to win 9 games , then 10 games the following season, and is 11-1 this season (yes their one loss was a real clunker, but early in the season).
Sagarin has ND as the #1 team in the country. Don't think they are the best team, but they are pretty good. In three years he's delivered solid results. Kelly's last three seasons were great, but he also delivered some clunkers, like 4-8 in 2016.
It can't be financed anywhere, so they're going to have to come up with more money regardless of where they go. Pritzger isn't going to give them a nickel and the only group that thinks Brandon Johnson is worth a salt is the Chicago Teachers Union. Given what occurred November 5th, both of those guys have MUCH more on their plate to deal with than a stadium.
They own the land in Arlington Heights and they don't have all of the red tape to cut through that comes with Chicago. On top of that, there is absolutely no space to accomplish what they're trying to accomplish in Chicago. There is no viable area.
Now, Warren wants the "shovels in the ground" in 2025. To even REMOTELY have a chance at that, it has to be Arlington Heights and they'll either have to fund it themselves + the $300M donation from the NFL or they'll have to pull a third party in.
Warren is trying to save face by having to go back to Arlington Heights, but to make his vision reality....he has no choice.
Not sure that he quite understood the differences between Minneapolis and Chicago. He's learned the hard way.
I never got the impression that Warren is anything but a company admin guy, and really not a football personnel guy --> players , coaches or GM
- not sure he really has a dog in that fight
Bears have plan for next head coach: Chicago pinpoints this criteria and one surprising name could be in mix
Some big names could be in the mix in Chicago
Disaster incoming.
If that first tweet is correct, why is AP reporting that Poles will be the point person for search and “Warren said Poles would have the “final say” if the two have differing opinions on who should get the job”?
Battle89
- Cary-Grove, the better Trojan team
Been said in other places here, but who at the start of the season had NIU as the only blemish on an otherwise perfect ND record?
Well done Huskies, that may deserve a double bone.
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