Illini Basketball 2024-2025

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2024-2025 Illini Basketball 15-7 (7-5)
DateOpponentResult
Mon, Nov 4Eastern IllinoisW 112-67
Fri, Nov 8SIU EdwardsvilleW 90-58
Wed, Nov 13OaklandW 66-54
Wed, Nov 20AlabamaL 87-100
Sat, Nov 23Maryland Eastern ShoreW 87-40
Mon, Nov 25Little RockW 92-34
Thu, Nov 28ArkansasW 90-77
Fri, Dec 6at NorthwesternL 66-70 OT
Tue, Dec 10WisconsinW 86-80
Sat, Dec 14TennesseeL 64-66
Sun, Dec 22MissouriW 80-77
Sun, Dec 29Chicago StateW 117-64
Thu, Jan 2at OregonW 109-77
Sun, Jan 5at WashingtonW 81-77
Wed, Jan 8Penn StateW 91-52
Sat, Jan 11USCL 72-82
Tue, Jan 14at IndianaW 94-69
Sun, Jan 19at Michigan StateL 78-80
Thu, Jan 23MarylandL 70-91
Sun, Jan 26NorthwesternW 83-74
Thu, Jan 30at NebraskaL 74-80 OT
Sun, Feb 2Ohio StateW 87-79
Wed, Feb 5at Rutgers7:30pm BTN
Sat, Feb 8at Minnesota5:00pm BTN
Tue, Feb 11UCLA7:00pm Peacock
Sat, Feb 15Michigan State7:00pm FOX
Tue, Feb 18at Wisconsin7:30pm FS1
Sat, Feb 22Duke
(New York)		7:00pm FOX
Tue, Feb 25Iowa8:00pm FS1
Sun, Mar 2at Michigan2:45pm CBS
Fri, Mar 7Purdue7:00pm FOX

All times CT
 
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GatorMcKlusky
Causal Hangover Effects It’s not unreasonable to think that in-game sporting performance can be affected partly by what takes place off the court. We can’t observe what happens between games directly. Instead, we proxy for the possibility of athletes partying by looking at play following games in party cities. We are interested to see if teams exhibit a decline in performance the day following a game in a city with active nightlife; we call this a “hangover effect”. Part of the question is determining a reasonable way to measure levels of nightlife, and correspondingly which cities are notorious for it; we colloquially refer to such cities as “party cities”. At first glance, the topic might seem callow, but in fact there are many interesting nuances to work through.
 
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21ChampaignSt
It's hard to believe that from January 1, 2000 to January 1, 2007 we went 97-5 at home.

This is why home losses are so hard to stomach for me and I assume others. I grew to expect that a good Illini team playing at Assembly Farm Center should be virtually unbeatable.

Probably an unfair standard given how much the level of competition has improved. But for reference, Purdue was 95-7 at Mackey from January 1, 2018 to January 1, 2025. So, it's not totally unreasonable for us to expect that level of home performance as well.
 
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Bigtex
21ChampaignSt said:
It's hard to believe that from January 1, 2000 to January 1, 2007 we went 97-5 at home.

This is why home losses are so hard to stomach for me and I assume others. I grew to expect that a good Illini team playing at Assembly Farm Center should be virtually unbeatable.

Probably an unfair standard given how much the level of competition has improved. But for reference, Purdue was 95-7 at Mackey from January 1, 2018 to January 1, 2025. So, it's not totally unreasonable for us to expect that level of home performance as well.
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Too lazy but what is our home record for underwood? You can even leave out his first year.
 
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Bigtex
21ChampaignSt said:
Overall he is 98-27. If you take out the first two rebuild years, he is 77-15.
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77-15 is respectable but not close to 97-5 or Self years (39-2)

2001-2002 13-1
2002-2003 14-0
2003-2004 12-1

Every year underwood, Illinois has lost at least 2 games at home.

Impressive away record 30-19 when you leave out 22-23 season:

19-20 6-6
20-21 9-3
21-22 7-4
22-23 3-7
23-24 6-5
24-25 2-1 (so far)
away record 33-26
 
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21ChampaignSt
Bigtex said:
77-15 is respectable but not close to 97-5 or Self years (39-2)

2001-2002 13-1
2002-2003 14-0
2003-2004 12-1

Every year underwood, Illinois has lost at least 2 games at home.

Impressive away record 30-19 when you leave out 22-23 season:

19-20 6-6
20-21 9-3
21-22 7-4
22-23 3-7
23-24 6-5
24-25 2-1 (so far)
away record 33-26
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Room for improvement for sure. I don't know how much blame to give Underwood for it. I'm not sure what levers, as a head coach you pull to get your team to play better at home? Not being argumentative. I just truly don't know.

There are other contributing factors as well like changes in fan dynamics / demographics, stadium renovation, changes in gameday atmosphere such as traditions being replaced by corporations, and probably most importantly, increased competition.
 
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Bigtex
21ChampaignSt said:
Room for improvement for sure. I don't know how much blame to give Underwood for it. I'm not sure what levers, as a head coach you pull to get your team to play better at home? Not being argumentative. I just truly don't know.

There are other contributing factors as well like changes in fan dynamics / demographics, stadium renovation, changes in gameday atmosphere such as traditions being replaced by corporations, and probably most importantly, increased competition.
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agree it is more than the coach but we all know the coach gets credit and blame when things go great or not so great.
 
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Battle89
Bigtex said:
agree it is more than the coach but we all know the coach gets credit and blame when things go great or not so great.
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I know the responses will be "college students! weren't you ever 20 years old? they need to let off steam!" etc., but it is inexplicable to me when I hear of things like the late night partying before a game (i.e. the Coleman birthday before PSU). And then knowledge of that colors my interpretation of games like USC, with or without merit.

Yes I was 20 once, and yes I partied. But not the night before I was expected to to my job, especially at the level of exposure / importance that the games are, and most especially not if I were being paid the $$$ that some of them are.

Talk on here about 11am games is like they are at the crack of dawn. It's the middle of the day - and you skip shootaround for the sleepyheads? I guess I'd be even more indignant if the actual game results didn't back all that talk up, our record in these games is terrible. So what do we change if we can't change the schedule?
 
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risingfalcon98
Battle89 said:
I know the responses will be "college students! weren't you ever 20 years old? they need to let off steam!" etc., but it is inexplicable to me when I hear of things like the late night partying before a game (i.e. the Coleman birthday before PSU). And then knowledge of that colors my interpretation of games like USC, with or without merit.

Yes I was 20 once, and yes I partied. But not the night before I was expected to to my job, especially at the level of exposure / importance that the games are, and most especially not if I were being paid the $$$ that some of them are.

Talk on here about 11am games is like they are at the crack of dawn. It's the middle of the day - and you skip shootaround for the sleepyheads? I guess I'd be even more indignant if the actual game results didn't back all that talk up, our record in these games is terrible. So what do we change if we can't change the schedule?
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May have missed a post or two but is it speculation or confirmed that some of the team were out partying Friday night?
 
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Old Farm Illini
My bad if there are any mistakes:

Home win percentage against high major opponents - 35/45 = 78%
2024-25: Won 2 out of 3 - home against high major opponents
2023-24: 8 out of 10
2022-23: 8 out of 10
2021-22: 9 out of 12
2020-21: 8 out of 10

Overall win percentage against conference teams during break - 9/13 = 69%
2024-25: Won 1 out of 2- home during break against high major opponents
2023-24: 2 out of 3
2022-23: 2 out of 2
2021-22: 2 out of 2
2020-21: 2 out of 4

High Major Record with Morning/Early Afternoon Games At Home - 8/14 = 57%
2024-25: Won 0 out of 1
2023-24: 3 out of 4
2022-23: 2 out of 3
2021-22: 1 out of 3
2020-21: 2 out of 3

This is unacceptable. Josh needs to look at these games specifically and make some adjustments to improve the atmosphere. It is totally something that can be shifted.
 
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AirNeazy
Old Farm Illini said:
This is unacceptable. Josh needs to look at these games specifically and make some adjustments to improve the atmosphere. It is totally something that can be shifted.
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I feel like this will be tough for Josh.....if we want to sideline a lot of the old farts in A section who sit down all game.....those same folks are probably the biggest NIL contributors lol
 
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PlayDeeBrownNote
Old Farm Illini said:
My bad if there are any mistakes:

Home win percentage against high major opponents - 35/45 = 78%
2024-25: Won 2 out of 3 - home against high major opponents
2023-24: 8 out of 10
2022-23: 8 out of 10
2021-22: 9 out of 12
2020-21: 8 out of 10

Overall win percentage against conference teams during break - 9/13 = 69%
2024-25: Won 1 out of 2- home during break against high major opponents
2023-24: 2 out of 3
2022-23: 2 out of 2
2021-22: 2 out of 2
2020-21: 2 out of 4

High Major Record with Morning/Early Afternoon Games At Home - 8/14 = 57%
2024-25: Won 0 out of 1
2023-24: 3 out of 4
2022-23: 2 out of 3
2021-22: 1 out of 3
2020-21: 2 out of 3

This is unacceptable. Josh needs to look at these games specifically and make some adjustments to improve the atmosphere. It is totally something that can be shifted.
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During the pre-game radio show, you could hear the music coming through the SFC PA and it was…not good. Regardless of your tastes, playing Sarah McLachlan during pre-game shoot around is not gonna get anyone hyped for a BIG game.
 
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NashvILLe05
PlayDeeBrownNote said:
During the pre-game radio show, you could hear the music coming through the SFC PA and it was…not good. Regardless of your tastes, playing Sarah McLachlan during pre-game shoot around is not gonna get anyone hyped for a BIG game.
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Agreed, that’s for those sad animal commercials.

I still remember being in the Krush and Brian Cook running out of the locker room dribbling a ball to a Jermaine Dupri song. It was awesome and brought major energy into the building.
 
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21ChampaignSt
PlayDeeBrownNote said:
During the pre-game radio show, you could hear the music coming through the SFC PA and it was…not good. Regardless of your tastes, playing Sarah McLachlan during pre-game shoot around is not gonna get anyone hyped for a BIG game.
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Lol It's a gag. When the visiting team is warming up, they play sad, slow, waiting room type stuff. Then when we come out, they turn on more energetic stuff.
 
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RollChief
A nice reminder for everyone still feeling pessimistic coming off the USC home loss:

On 1/16/2021, Illinois was 9-5 after coming off of back-to-back home losses to Maryland and Ohio State. Then we went on to take the #1 seed.

Then, in the NCAA Tournament, we got bounced by 8-seed Loyola Chicago in the 2nd round.

Hope is still alive!
 
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AnnoyedWithGarza
PlayDeeBrownNote said:
During the pre-game radio show, you could hear the music coming through the SFC PA and it was…not good. Regardless of your tastes, playing Sarah McLachlan during pre-game shoot around is not gonna get anyone hyped for a BIG game.
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To be fair, that may have been during the time when USC was warming up and Illinois was in the locker room. I was at the game and when Illinois was on the court that was not playing.

However, that will put the fans in a sleepy mood that is for sure.
 
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illini011923
RollChief said:
A nice reminder for everyone still feeling pessimistic coming off the USC home loss:
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* This is the third year where the best player missed some time middle of the season *
- Ayo missed some time 2020/21 (blew out Michigan)
- TSJ missed some time 2023/24 (3-2 record with HOME loss to Maryland, and @Purdue with a 30 point win and 2 wins of 15+)
- KJ missed 2 games (30+ win vs Penn St , and HOME loss to USC)

Of course you want to win every home game , but when you lose your primary ball handler/scorer its hard to win consistently yet Underwood has overcame that and has 3 separate cases where he's built a roster that can lose that star player and still beat BIG TEN opponents by 20+

The biggest difference from this year to those past years is the experience factor. This team is so young experience wise you have to expect a dip after 30+ vs Oregon, and 30+ vs Penn St. They should only get better especially when KJ comes back.
 
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