Pregame: Illinois vs Michigan State, Saturday, February 15th, 7:00pm CT, FOX

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DevILLDawg
Indy Illini Fan said:
Fire Hamer and hire someone who can teach a zone defense … 🤷🏻‍♂️

And someone who can also figure out you might wanna guard the guy who’s absolutely torching you from 3 last night …

Just my thoughts … 🤷🏻‍♂️😂
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No deal! We will go over screens all day on dudes who shoot 20% from 3 then get foul baited on floaters when they drive...
 
#79      
RollChief
As someone who played freshman year high school basketball, and then later transferred to the high school rec league (pre NIL)... I think they should run zone defense. I hope my opinion is considered by the coaching staff.
 
#80      
Bigtex
So Indiana and Woodson were able to work in a zone that worked against MSU but Brad and staff aren't able to?
 
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sacraig
RollChief said:
As someone who played freshman year high school basketball, and then later transferred to the high school rec league (pre NIL)... I think they should run zone defense. I hope my opinion is considered by the coaching staff.
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As someone who never successfully made the team in basketball beginning in 7th grade, I think they should dribble between their legs more.
 
#83      
Fighter of the Nightman
DevILLDawg said:
No deal! We will go over screens all day on dudes who shoot 20% from 3 then get foul baited on floaters when they drive...
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LOL! I am NOT a basketball Xs and Os guy by any means, but it seems like we are trailing a dribbling player into the lane and commit a pathetically soft foul from behind on him while he shoots a super easy floater WAY too often. :ROFLMAO: Talk about a good way to give up an and-one!
 
#84      
OrangeBlue98
sacraig said:
As someone who never successfully made the team in basketball beginning in 7th grade, I think they should dribble between their legs more.
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If I could find the "Jack Krap highlight YouTube video" right now, I'd absolutely post it to validate your point here. :)
 
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BryceHopkins
Fighter of the Nightman said:
LOL! I am NOT a basketball Xs and Os guy by any means, but it seems like we are trailing a dribbling player into the lane and commit a pathetically soft foul from behind on him while he shoots a super easy floater WAY too often. :ROFLMAO: Talk about a good way to give up an and-one!
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YES! I was literally screaming this at my TV so loudly last night I woke the kids up. Stop playing defense from behind and if you're gonna foul him, for the love of God, foul him like you mean it so he can't get the and-one!
 
#88      
RollChief
sacraig said:
As someone who never successfully made the team in basketball beginning in 7th grade, I think they should dribble between their legs more.
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As the assistant manager of Mcdonald's who has spent all day giving out free 6-piece McNuggets (thanks Eric Dailey), how come we don't do more cool dunks? TSJ used to do cool dunks. The team should be practicing dunks more.
 
#89      
illini0440
Fighter of the Nightman said:
LOL! I am NOT a basketball Xs and Os guy by any means, but it seems like we are trailing a dribbling player into the lane and commit a pathetically soft foul from behind on him while he shoots a super easy floater WAY too often. :ROFLMAO: Talk about a good way to give up an and-one!
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From a former college coach.....They go over every ball screen because they want to force guys into 2's with a rearview contest and they play exclusively drop coverage in ball screens which fits the personnel they have. It's also a mindset of being tougher than everyone else and going over on average shooters to keep that mindset and toughness for when we play good ones. % game on 2 point shots.

As for zone...If they went to a zone Izzo would carve it up with specials and then rebound IL out of it. And you don't zone when your the best rebounding team in the country 🤣
 
#90      
DirtyBurgIllini
illini0440 said:
From a former college coach.....They go over every ball screen because they want to force guys into 2's with a rearview contest and they play exclusively drop coverage in ball screens which fits the personnel they have. It's also a mindset of being tougher than everyone else and going over on average shooters to keep that mindset and toughness for when we play good ones. % game on 2 point shots.

As for zone...If they went to a zone Izzo would carve it up with specials and then rebound IL out of it. And you don't zone when your the best rebounding team in the country 🤣
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Just because Indiana beat MSU by playing a zone does NOT mean that we should do it! Also, 30th in defensive efficiency in KenPom right now. You guys didn't even complain this much about last year's defense which was 80th (and way worse going into the postseason)
 
#92      
ptgrd23
UNLV and Syracuse both won national championships playing zone. So did Magic at Michigan State.
You just run the risk that somebody lights you up from 3 which is why even though its legal you don't see zone much in NBA.
We have excellent size but are not quick so zone might be good alternative for us for part of game vs MSU. I was very surprised more teams did not play it vs Purdue with Zack Edey since they knew they were going to lose playing man to man. Best team vs Edey was NW who trapped half court entire game last season.

Rebounding is more difficult in zone but still possible.

I can guarantee you if you don't practice it and use it then you will be bad at it. Brad has played some zone in past. He is not a fanatic like Weber.
 
#95      
GrayGhost77
DirtyBurgIllini said:
Just because Indiana beat MSU by playing a zone does NOT mean that we should do it! Also, 30th in defensive efficiency in KenPom right now. You guys didn't even complain this much about last year's defense which was 80th (and way worse going into the postseason)
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Agree with your point, but "To be FAIR..." we also had like the 2nd best offense in the country last season so figured by February that we could pretty much just outscore everybody we played. Worked out pretty decently too until we just happened to face the one team in the country where that wasn't necessarily the case.
 
#96      
NarrowJ
Our offense this season is 13th (Torvik) & 14th (Kenpom) but the defense is 30th (Torvik) & 22nd (Kenpom). I believe we were top 10 in both offense and defense prior to having guys forced into roles via injury and sickness? (could be wrong on that, but point remains: we are more balanced than we were last season)
 
#98      
DevILLDawg
It's also a great way to get KJ into foul trouble against a well coached team...

Mindset of being tougher is great...prove that by outrebounding and getting to the rim against a bad shooting team.
 
#99      
DevILLDawg
KJ bites on pump fakes. Maybe more than anyone on the team. Tom Izzo is gonna have Fiddler, Fears, Richardson...you name it flopping or trying to bait KJ into the air or to leave his arm extended for a cheap one.

He knows MSU can't beat Illinois with KJ playing 30 minutes. His game plan will be to get him off the court. No doubt about it
 
#100      
Bacon Butkus Swanson
Chad Fleck said:
Every loss has the losing fanbase presuming the officials screwed them.

Totally toxic idealogy that has taken over most people's brains.
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This is a questionable take. My seats were quite a ways back and the UCLA slapping/pushing/fouling with no calls was stunning. On our home court.

Just compare the calls that Izzo's thugs got at Lansing (see KJ fouling out) to most Illini home games..... I know I might be a bit biased, but I do know what a home court advantage is supposed to look like. I don't pretend to know why. Referee's must not like orange?

I saw what I saw...... Toxicity has nothing to do with it.

Note: Kofi's smile is the opposite of toxic :)
 
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