They mentioned Marquette and Michigan State.I thought in past years, they also did a "teams in consideration" during the reveal. Which is basically the 5 seeds. Did they not do that this year?
Wins above Bubble. It’s a Bart Torvik metric. They added it this past summer to be a metric the committee uses for the tournament selection process. It’s basically a formula saying how many wins a bubble team would have if they played the same schedule as yours. We are low due to the Northwestern, USC and Nebraska losses. Most metrics would grade us at a 4/5 seed right now but WAB has us around a 7. Our non conference had some tough games but we lost to the top teams(Bama/Tenn). Mizzou and Ark are looking better with time. Unfortunately we played trash teams outside of that group. I think scheduling more teams like Oakland will help go a long way.What is the WAB all about? Ours isn't good. What does it do in the grand scheme of things?
Playing Duke next week will help the non-con a bit but you’re right. Need more teams like Oakland.Wins above Bubble. It’s a Bart Torvik metric. They added it this past summer to be a metric the committee uses for the tournament selection process. It’s basically a formula saying how many wins a bubble team would have if they played the same schedule as yours. We are low due to the Northwestern, USC and Nebraska losses. Most metrics would grade us at a 4/5 seed right now but WAB has us around a 7. Our non conference had some tough games but we lost to the top teams(Bama/Tenn). Mizzou and Ark are looking better with time. Unfortunately we played trash teams outside of that group. I think scheduling more teams like Oakland will help go a long way.
Agree. UMES and Chicago State are bottom 8 in the NET. Need to play bad teams-just not that badPlaying Duke next week will help the non-con a bit but you’re right. Need more teams like Oakland.
Agree. UMES and Chicago State are bottom 8 in the NET. Need to play bad teams-just not that bad
That’s true. We also won those games by like 40 points which inflates our metrics and helps our NET so I might walk back what I said.I actually like scheduling the worst of the worst cupcakes. Oakland only added 0.08 WAB, so almost nothing. But every now and then, those Oakland type teams will upset you and really mess up your resume. The risk is not worh the reward, IMO.
The real reason our WAB is low is because we've lost lots of games that our predictive metrics say we should've won. Luckily, we still have a lot of chances to improve our WAB.
This entire idea is just idiotic. Go back to 64. The more teams you put in, the less valuable the regular season. If you are going to expand further, go to 256... *eyeroll*
They're never going back so forget that. I do agree that expansion is stupid but it goes along with every other major sport college and pro in that every playoffs or tournament is expanding. 68 is more than enough.This entire idea is just idiotic. Go back to 64. The more teams you put in, the less valuable the regular season. If you are going to expand further, go to 256... *eyeroll*
This is a question for after the game, but in the grand scheme of things, what carries the most weight? We're #13 in the NET, top 20 in KenPom /Torvik, we have 7 Q1 wins, we've played 14 Q1 games....which all ends itself to a top 4(ish) seed. However, this one metric can pull us down to a 7 from a 4?Wins above Bubble. It’s a Bart Torvik metric. They added it this past summer to be a metric the committee uses for the tournament selection process. It’s basically a formula saying how many wins a bubble team would have if they played the same schedule as yours. We are low due to the Northwestern, USC and Nebraska losses. Most metrics would grade us at a 4/5 seed right now but WAB has us around a 7. Our non conference had some tough games but we lost to the top teams(Bama/Tenn). Mizzou and Ark are looking better with time. Unfortunately we played trash teams outside of that group. I think scheduling more teams like Oakland will help go a long way.
We’ve had a lot more Q1 opportunities than most teams and are under .500 in that category. We don’t have top end Q1A wins like most 1-4 seeds so as well. We are bakedThis is a question for after the game, but in the grand scheme of things, what carries the most weight? We're #13 in the NET, top 20 in KenPom /Torvik, we have 7 Q1 wins, we've played 14 Q1 games....which all ends itself to a top 4(ish) seed. However, this one metric can pull us down to a 7 from a 4?
Seems like it's baked into the NET, but it's really not. Now, obviously, getting more Q1 wins would drop that number substantially, correct? I'd hate to think that USC and Rutgers are going to be an anchor for the rest of the year.
Meaning, by hook or crook..... we're pretty much locked in the 8/9 or 7/10 game?We’ve had a lot more Q1 opportunities than most teams and are under .500 in that category. We don’t have top end Q1A wins like most 1-4 seeds so as well. We are baked
I mean we’re 5-6 in our last 11 so at this rate…yes.Meaning, by hook or crook..... we're pretty much locked in the 8/9 or 7/10 game?
We need to go 3-2 in the last 5 to get a 6 I think. 2-3 and 7, 1-4 probably in the 8-9 gameMeaning, by hook or crook..... we're pretty much locked in the 8/9 or 7/10 game?
"and then" - bless your heart.Could see us get lucky with a 6 or 7 seed maybe to not make the year a bust. If we get the 8/9 I guarantee we will see UConn first round and then Auburn
3-2 will not happen. I see us beating Iowa, I'm not sure we do much other than that.We need to go 3-2 in the last 5 to get a 6 I think. 2-3 and 7, 1-4 probably in the 8-9 game
Y’all say the same thing after every loss, we won’t win another game or 1, with such and such record.3-2 will not happen. I see us beating Iowa, I'm not sure we do much other than that.
Rinse and repeat for the entirety of the past month - After a win: "let's win the next four; this team has so much talent" ... and after a loss: "bubble team, gonna go on a prolonged losing skid, will be lucky to win another game".Y’all say the same thing after every loss, we won’t win another game or 1, with such and such record.
After every win we’re going to run the table or have a winning record. Just stop. You don’t know what is going on to happen.
Y’all say the same thing after every loss, we won’t win another game or 1, with such and such record.
After every win we’re going to run the table or have a winning record. Just stop. You don’t know what is going on to happen.