Michigan State 79, Illinois 65 Postgame

[OrangeAndBlueBlooded]

I’m decently drunk and quite angry, but can someone correct me on this if I’m wrong?

MSU had 9 fouls with 12 minutes left. They ended the game with 9 fouls. If that’s the case, I’ve lost faith in this staff.

They picked up their 7th foul at 12:54, their 8th at 12:09, and their 9th and final foul at 3:49.

From the 13 minute mark forward it should have been a constant effort to go inside.

 

[Snoopy]

It's not just Ben , others took and missed shots.

The problem was the quick 3s on the "fast breaks" when they probably should have held up and run something. Anything other than launch an off balance 3 just to hit Brad's 7 second target. And then in the 1/2 court sets getting absolutely nothing in the paint and having to launch contested 3s. They were in the bonus for something like the last 10 minutes and just never got to the line. Izzo took Brad to school tonight. Sad.

 

[NorthShoreIllini]

We hung Shannon’s jersey upside down. Truly comical. This program is embarrassment

 

[Battle89]

Probably got it hammered early that there was no such thing as a bad 3 based on how he used to say “just keep shooting”. Once you reinforce bad habits good luck reversing that in a season

This

 

[BretMyBeachHouse]

You haven't gotten the memo obviously. Brad knows more than you and everyone else on the board. Tyler and Hamer are great. That's why the guy who runs the show has them. Ben is providing more than you can even understand.

 

[OrangeKrush1981]

I have, very reluctantly, been thinking for weeks now that Josh Whitman needs to be thinking about the next Illinois mens' basketball coach. It will be a setback, to change up now. But I think Under has very clearly shown he is a very good coach, but not one that can reach the goals that he himself has set: national championship.

I'd very unhappily be looking for the person who can do that at Illinois, if there is such a person available. I'd tell Under that too.

 

[TheodoreRex]

Brad has done more for this program...we have short memories. I don't want to go back to grocery or weber.

I expect far more than getting waxed on my home court multiple times in one season... I guess I'm being unrealistic

 

[HailtotheChief]

I know BU hates zone but at least show it when the guards are killing ys and the guards can't shoot the 3. Woodson did that and MSU shot 38% and got beat at home by Indiana. We could not get a stop and yet BU didn't even try the zone one time! Indiana and Woodson did and I bet other coaches will too. At least if the D is struggling like ours was stopping them getting in the lane

 

[RickF]

Get rid of Tyler Underwood

 

[abchew2]

Crowd was amped too, organization and team did everything to waste the opportunity with their play and joke of a honoring for TSJ. Honestly the upside down jersey amplified how upsetting this game was ten fold

 

[BatteredWifeSchwartz]

Back to jacking 3s.

I think I’m ready for this season to be done.

 

[illinigiant80]

Thank you !

 

[ILL25NOIS]

I wonder what Ty Roger’s says to the team after a tough loss.

 

[Ill in Cols]

7/33 on 3's tonight - 21%. Rinse, repeat, lose.

MSU shot 12 3's for the entire game, and won going away.

On the radio post game, Deon said it all. We were shooting way too many jump shots, whereas MSU was taking it to the basket. Why is this so hard for Brad and the other coaches to comprehend? We don't shoot the three well, so just STOP.

the only small correction I would make to this is, at a point in late in the second half, I was just dumbstruck at how many 10 foot jump shots MSU was making. Isn't that what you want a team to shoot?

 

[Orangeandblue72]

What happens next is the money dries up for ol’ Brad cause he’s proving he can’t win the top end games. That is what will eventually take for Whitman to make a move.

 

[Old Farm Illini]

Correct but not for long if Underwood stays this stubborn. Almost feels like apathy at this point.

 

[sacraig]

Brad ain’t going anywhere at this point unless he wants to coming off an E8.

But let’s just say: we certainly aren’t going to keep sinking all this money into a team/staff that continuously is inventing ways to be bad.

I consider those statements to be incompatible. If Whitman is invested in Brad being the guy, he needs to keep paying for Brad to have a staff that can win big. If Brad squanders that money on bad coaches (as seems to be the case for at least two of our current assistants), then the solution isn't to cut him off: it's either to force him to make changes or to change him out for someone else.

Period.

 

[OrangeAndBlueBlooded]

From the time we went up by 16, they scored 64 points. We scored 65 total.

 

[Turn N’ Burn]

“Hats off to Michigan State…”

 

[abchew2]

Could tell the starters ran out of gas too, lot of short shots. The rotation is a mess

 

[SilverTurbo]

$3.2M salary =
About $106,000 gross pay per game.
$2650 per MINUTE
He got $30,000 to do nothing for the last scoreless 7.5 minutes

 

[Se Il Illini]

MSU was getting tp the basket because they were running an offense that got them to the basket. Izzo ran some stuff in the last 10 minutes (and probably earlier) that he has been using for 20 years.

 

[Second place is 1st loser]

Yeah, I'm looking at our schedule and I only see Iowa as a game that I feel good about. We're going to be sweating it out on Selection Sunday. That said, this team has hit it's ceiling, so I'm a bit in the whatever phase.

 

[Indy Illini Fan]

I want to know where Whitman stands on all this. Is he even remotely close to considering a change?

I like to keep the conversations private per Josh’s wishes … But I will say this … Josh always has a list … And he’s always wanting to know who would be interested …

 

[skyIdub]

I think our coaching staff is lost.