MSU has beaten the Twerps 7 straight times because they do play aggressively and don't rely as much on the 3
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Would Jakstys be help inside next year, or is he more like the euro 4s?
Was there a common thread with our bad evaluations last year? I attribute a lot of the teams struggles to a complete lack of depth. Hum. was a miss, and Booth was a bad miss. I remember some people saying Davis would be able to replace Goode's production and that was absolutely not true. Throw in the Rodgers redshirt and there's just not much past the 6th man.
No way is Tomi near as strong as those guys I don't care what he weighs. I don't believe either weighs 255 either. Ive stood by Tomi when he wore a t shirt n shorts and by Meyers several times and Meyers is a much stronger both in college and even still. Meyers was lifted more than anyone but Crowder at the combine and was only 260lbs. Tomi just isnt as big, or strong or athletic as these guys. Tomi is skilled. Tomi and Rez both struggle not fouling since they aren't as broad. You saw the match ups. Rez will get there but he isnt yet. I think he would agree. I dont buy those numbers for Tomi or Rez. Unless Tomi put on 20lbs since the football game. They both get moved. Rez isnt that big. Espn has 225, he may be 235. He was moved pretty easily in both match ups vs the Terps bigs and by TKR who is just slightly bigger. That 255 has to be inflated. Regardless they both were moved vs Purdue and Maryland. We used to have 2 guys like that would cause us problems if they played vs us. I hope Rez gets there, I think he will. We need more bigger, stronger, athletic dudes. Guys like Kofi, Dain, Queen, Reese, and TKR will just continue to be a headache this year. Rez will be that guy. Luckily most teams don't gave guys like that. I have zero doubt Rez will be that guy next season. I hope we had another one to support him.
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I agree that roster construction was an issue but the lineup you just created wouldn't even make the tournament.
There is nothing really wrong with the current players in a vacuum but there's just too much of the same thing and not enough quickness or athleticism plus very little shooting.
Also, this won't be a popular take but Boswell's inability to shoot really hurts this team and he's basically a Ty Rodgers level threat from outside at the moment. 22.4% on the year on 4 attempts per game is atrocious. I don't think he should necessarily be guaranteed a starting job next year or not be recruited over.
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Exactly KJ fell off after the Washington game. I think he’s playing like someone that knows he’s a NBA lottery pick and doesn’t want to get injured. I think that forearm injury changed his perspective for season. Do enough but don’t risk getting injured
Watching him in warmups you can definitely see that he's been in the weight room and is no longer the tall, skinny kid he was coming out of high school. He's got a broad set of shoulders, looks like the lower body is developing a strong base, and you can see him developing the arm definition the Tomi and KJ lack. I think he'll provide some help next year as a more physical big.
How tall is he?
Josh Dix is a 6'6" 41% career 3pt shooter. If we want length and shooting at the guard spot she has been consistent for 3 years shooting from 3 at over 40% each season. I know say we have better options but those numbers sound good. He seems to play well most nights in the B10
Give me: Moe Odum, Jamir Watkins and Dame Sarr
Throw in Big Z and call it a day.
Personally, I'd sub Martenelli for Watkins (and I think he might also be a more likely option)
Basically Ty from 3? Come on man. Has he struggled this year? Yes , he has. But that statement just is such an exaggeration! Ty never has made a 3! I had to look up Kylans career stats. As a freshman he was 30-77, 39% a sophomore 66-174, 38%, this year dropped to 30-134, 22.4% and for his career has made 126 3s and is 33%. Boz has played great lately until last night, he rebounds and is a very solid defender. He will be starting next season and will shoot better. He is one player I'm not worried about.
Ummmm….. OK you talked me into it.
I can’t speak to what exactly the staff saw in our transfers, but from my vantage point I think the common thread was analytics. We clearly valued postional size and shooting, and physicality/toughness seemed to be a secondary concern. For whatever reason, we were never able to be a consistently good shooting team. I don’t think we get any worse looks overall than Wisconsin, but they have been north of 35% all year while we have been down around 30%. If our %’s were switched with Wisconsin, I think we are likely a top 3 seed.
And I’m not sure Ben was a miss per se. I think it was more like we didn’t have him in the right role for the first 30 or so games. He’s seemed much more comfortable off the bench. Now we probably overpaid for him but not his fault we tried to make him a 30 minute a game player when he just wasn’t.
One thing I think the staff needs to consider in building next years roster is. the trade off between continuity and talent maximization, particularly in the areas of toughness and culture. To take 2 examples, Ben/Luke and Tre/Ty. However it’s worked out, I don’t think you can deny Ben has a higher ceiling as a player than Luke. 6’9 vs 6’7, better athlete, and had shown some playmaking at Evansville. But was the upside worth it over a 4 year toughness/culture guy. Likewise with Tre and in Tre’s case, he probably has been an upgrade over Ty. Was that upgrade worth losing continuity/culture with Ty?
Overall I don’t think this team has culture problems. I do think they care and for the most part are bought in. But I do think we are missing the little winning plays.
TL;DR: I don’t think roster construction is simply a matter of talent accumulation. I think continuity and culture count for something.
That's where I went to high school. Long ago, lol.
Seems that way to me also, so ething changed after that.
I watched Ty play and shoot 3s in high school. I firmly believe he could shoot 20% if he had the green light to shoot 3s.
20% is really really bad that's approaching Curbelo territory.
Where in the rules does it allow the banging down low to push an established defender out of position? I can see the first one as incidental contact as the offensive player comes to a stop. The second one seems like an offensive foul by the rules written. What did I miss other than a "custom"? I'm not seeing this style in the NBA anymore (not that I watch much NBA).
0 threes vs 126 is not the same. Ty is a career 52% FT shooter. Kylan is 79%. It sounds like your biased or lying to yourself. Come in man? Is 38 or 39% the other two years bad or impossible or maybe even more likely to happen. Did you watch the Iowa game or how well Kylan hasplayed lately. Come in man! Adios with that stuff! Lol..ILL!
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Thank you. If those two come back (which is not a given) that’s a lot of size.
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Maybe but a big piece is also there started to be way more scouting and film on him, and film against real HM teams. Certain teams made adjustments and he hasn’t been able to counter all of them.
Then you add some of the lack of confidence it seems and you get a few struggles.
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