Now that's filling up the stat sheet. we can live with that...
Illinois 86, Xavier 73 Postgame
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Agree with most kids, and certainly with Ben, it is on the coaches, not the kid.
I was of the mindset early that Brad must know something, but it became clear as the season progressed that both Will and Rez presented mismatch problems to other teams that Ben doesn't. They just weren't the type of mismatch a prototypical stretch forward, with positional size, in Tyler's analytic biased offense, would have provided. It was also very clear that Ben wasn't ready to fill that prototypical role either.
It took until after the worst loss in program history for Brad to change the starting lineup. Many people on the board were way ahead of Brad. At least Brad finally adjusted.
rmlsr
- El Paso,IL
That is the problem with analytics. It doesn’t tell the whole story.
I do feel for Ben. Last year he was in the Valley and playing in front of maybe 1,000-1,500 people every night, and 2 years ago he was playing NAIA ball. Clearly certain moments are too big for him at this point. Easy enough for us to criticize from our couches, but I can only imagine how badly I would perform at something I was even really good at (and I’m not anywhere close to as good at anything as Ben is at basketball) in front of 15,000 screaming people and a national TV audience.
In the right role at the right price I would love to have him back if he’s willing. Sometimes it just takes guys a bit to adjust to the bright lights. He clearly has the talent to play at this level. At this point I think it’s mostly between the ears and confidence with him.
In the right role at the right price I would love to have him back if he’s willing. Sometimes it just takes guys a bit to adjust to the bright lights. He clearly has the talent to play at this level. At this point I think it’s mostly between the ears and confidence with him.
mhuml32
Gesture of Northern Aggression
This is the problem of believing everything on here - I haven't seen any CBB analytic sites espousing their love for Hummer.
sacraig
- The desert
Players with consistently equal or more "grit" than Humrichous: Boswell, Johnson, DGL, Davis.
Some of them are better than BH and some worse, but acting like we don't have that trait on the team is as silly as acting like BH never hits threes.
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Ryllini
- Lombard
If Ben could be the key to unlock the offense and hit transition 3’s that are wide open multiple times a game and hit stand alone 3’s with consistency, I’ll gladly have him back for his “grit”. I’ll give you that he does pretty well on scouts, he is in the right spot a lot of the time, but when you aren’t doing your main job, I can’t have you stuck in the mud while guarding the dribble or showing nothing going under a screen. No hand up or anything on Swain’s 3.
Things like avoids committing stupid fouls, off ball / help defense, deflections, saves, blocks out, keeps rebounds alive, makes the next pass ...
The point is that you guys don’t understand his role. He is a gravity guy. He spaces the floor and his size can provide a mismatch. Just because he’s not making shots doesn’t mean he’s not providing value
I’ve noticed BH has attempted to back his guy down from 15 feet in and take short fade-aways. He has the size & skillset for it, but boy, he is lacking the lower body strength to bang. If he stays, my hope is he lives in the weight room and adds that to his arsenal.
sacraig
- The desert
I agree. I don't think he's hopeless, necessarily. But I do think keeping him as more of a developmental case is risky. That's if he's even willing to accept that.
gonna be his 6th yr in college basketball and we are talking about development. hes just not good at this level. go back to the valley
Keep this copied and just continue to paste it whenever someone spouts off some BS
Not to mention, up until the day of the first game, we thought we would have Ty Rogers too.
We are not deep on the frontline. He provides much needed relief.
Can anyone tell me how in the world Ben has another year of eligibility? He played three seasons of NAIA and one at Evansville. This season makes five and I am almost certain that uses up all of his eligibility even with an added season for Covid. Also, I saw no mention of his return prior to 2025 when all of a sudden, someone mentioned it might be possible.
This bugs me that there is a missing part of which I am unaware....but this is the interweb..... fact and truth are often missing.
Hummer is a poor booty ball finisher. He can get that 8 for fade pretty easily, but my recollection for the season he has made about 10 to 15 percent and come of short the rest of the time. I do not recall him getting the ball to the heel of the rim. He needs to practice that shot...a lot....and it could become a money shot for him which he should hit 60% of the time or better when guarded by a shorter player. The shot is difficult only if it varies in force of the jump back. Buy with a lot of training to become consistent it can be almost unstoppable. But without that work and with only 20% success, it is a detriment to the team with no chance of the shooter getting the rebound.
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
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But if a guy is sitting in the corner and he's not shooting well, is he really affecting "gravity"? Sure, if he's actually a legit threat from 3 then put him in the corner.
Humrichous is the guy other fan bases are saying "let him shoot and try to get his" like we talk about guys who always seem to get their career highs against us. I would imagine Pope and his staff are game-planning to help off of Humrichous and dare him to beat us. I know that would be my plan, kind of like how Illinois played off of Swaim Friday night.
Non-NCAA playing years (NAIA and JUCO) have at least temporarily been determined to not count against eligibility. This came from a lawsuit filed by Vanderbilt's quarterback Diego Pavia.
NCAA grants waiver to athletes in Pavia's position
The NCAA Division I Board of Directors approved a blanket waiver granting an extra year of eligibility to former junior college transfers in similar positions to Vanderbilt's Diego Pavia, while also announcing it is appealing the ruling in Pavia's case.
blackdog
- Champaign
If you watch how other teams play defense against him he is 100% a gravity guy. His defender is almost always very tight to him and teams DONT help off him. A really high percentage of his shots are with a hand in his face because he absolutely can make them at volume if he gets hot.
100%
I was surprised to see someone bring that up, because we constantly are complaining about how we play off of 25% three point shooters... but yes, of course our opponents are leaving a 35% shooter wide open on purpose...
Across 35 games this season, I've yet to see a team play off him on the perimeter. Look at the scoring plays while he was in the game vs Xavier, there is so much space in the middle of the floor its a layup line when guys cut through that amount of space. It's no wonder his +/- was so absurdly good while not making even one shot.
Boswell layup
White layup
Boswell layup (missed, but fouled and made 2 FT)
KJ layup (missed, but fouled and made 2 FT)
Ivisic 3 pointer
KJ layup (missed, but fouled and made 2 FT)
Riley layup
M.Johnson dunk
Boswell layup
Boswell 3 pointer
Riley dunk
Riley dunk
Riley 3 pointer
KJ layup (missed, but fouled and made 2 FT)
Riley layup
M.Johnson dunk
M.Johnson layup (missed, but fouled and made 2 FT)
Riley 3 pointer
KJ layup
Riley 3 pointer
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