Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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BretMyBeachHouse
Trueblue777 said:
The combine hasn’t even started yet. It’s too early.
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No, what I'm saying is that if he had some inclination to back out if issues arise at the combine I think we'd be getting hints of that.

Some guys are just set on going, regardless of outcome. Talen Horton-Tucker is an example. Cam Christie last year. Other than a few fans on message boards, who else is suggesting that he'd not go, even if thought he might drop to round 2.
 
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Mr. Tibbs
BretMyBeachHouse said:
No, what I'm saying is that if he had some inclination to back out if issues arise at the combine I think we'd be getting hints of that.

Some guys are just set on going, regardless of outcome. Talen Horton-Tucker is an example. Cam Christie last year. Other than a few fans on message boards, who else is suggesting that he'd not go, even if thought he might drop to round 2.
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I think the reason you might see it finally is that the NIL money can be significantly more staying in college another year, vs round 2 money

the only real risk is a career ending or altering injury if he returns to college

my guess is he gets enough positive feedback to stay in the draft & takes his chances . but with him it’s certainly possible he comes back . and we would find the $ if he does .
 
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RabidDawgClassic
grue2 said:
Thanks for the data comparison. One of the things I like about this forum is the general civility, even when there is serious disagreement. The last sentence above really seemed out of place. Your point was already made with the data.
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All joking aside, yes this board is generally civil, even when the arguments get heated. There are other boards (Illini and non-Illini) where the debates devolve into crude cesspools devoid of any intelligent thought. Warts aside, this board is a genuinely good place for reasonable discourse, even when we don’t agree.
 
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Aillini32
PepeSilvia said:
What? Zugic is on Creighton's roster for this upcoming year. He didn't only get half a season.
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McDermott made comments this week saying that he has been building the roster as if Zugic would remain ineligible. He said barring a last ditch effort he would be out of eligibility
 
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NarrowJ
PepeSilvia said:
What? Zugic is on Creighton's roster for this upcoming year. He didn't only get half a season.
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Yes, and I see nothing indicating he wasn't given a full four years as ESPN, 247.com and other sites have him listed as a Freshman. Wonder if that's accurate.
 
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BretMyBeachHouse
Mr. Tibbs said:
I think the reason you might see it finally is that the NIL money can be significantly more staying in college another year, vs round 2 money

the only real risk is a career ending or altering injury if he returns to college

my guess is he gets enough positive feedback to stay in the draft & takes his chances . but with him it’s certainly possible he comes back . and we would find the $ if he does .
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The money has gotten bigger, even from a year ago when people here were wondering if Christie might come.

At the same time, it's a huge risk for a kid to not enter the portal under those circumstances. Whatever money we have to bring him back is also available for another top talent.

Let's say that Riley tells the staff that he'd consider coming back for 2.5 but wants to wait until closer to the withdrawal date. Let's also say that Sarr tells them tomorrow that he'll come for 2.5. What does the staff do? Take Sarr I assume. Now Riley is homeless if he drops out.
 
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Illini 993
Aillini32 said:
Creighton’s Fedor Zugic is even younger than Petrovic and as of now was only granted a half season of college play. He played near the same amount of seasons of pro ball. It’s possible he’s a sophomore or Junior but unless Zugic has other circumstances I’d be surprised if Petrovic is able to play more than one season. Gtfo with the factually correct and ignorant bs when you don’t know
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Every site I looked at shows him being a Bluejay for 2025-26, including Creighton's own web page. So, maybe no one knows yet.
 
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Trueblue777
BretMyBeachHouse said:
The money has gotten bigger, even from a year ago when people here were wondering if Christie might come.

At the same time, it's a huge risk for a kid to not enter the portal under those circumstances. Whatever money we have to bring him back is also available for another top talent.

Let's say that Riley tells the staff that he'd consider coming back for 2.5 but wants to wait until closer to the withdrawal date. Let's also say that Sarr tells them tomorrow that he'll come for 2.5. What does the staff do? Take Sarr I assume. Now Riley is homeless if he drops out.
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Exactly, a bird in the hand is worth more than two in a bush. We are Final 4 material with either one
 
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PleaseMakeABowlGame
BretMyBeachHouse said:
The money has gotten bigger, even from a year ago when people here were wondering if Christie might come.

At the same time, it's a huge risk for a kid to not enter the portal under those circumstances. Whatever money we have to bring him back is also available for another top talent.

Let's say that Riley tells the staff that he'd consider coming back for 2.5 but wants to wait until closer to the withdrawal date. Let's also say that Sarr tells them tomorrow that he'll come for 2.5. What does the staff do? Take Sarr I assume. Now Riley is homeless if he drops out.
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but what if that 2.5 is promised to be guaranteed? .... no matter what. No matter who we have, or how much we've spent, we've got a roster spot with 2.5 waiting for you if you want to come back.

The misconception with the $$ situation is that teams operate under a set, strict cap when that's simply not true. Brad can always go back to the donors and ask for more.
 
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NarrowJ
Aillini32 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1918037961247002658

He was listed as a freshman until the NCAA decided on his eligibility. It appears they decided this off-season and as of now he is out of eligibility.
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That’s interesting, Tomi was pretty much a year younger and they said he was a sophomore. Seems there’s no rhyme or reason to it, but most of the podcasts and such are expecting him to get at least two years. Would speculate Zurig has some one-off type of thing causing him issues with being eligible given what the norm has been.
 
#438      
Illiniforlife
Does anyone know is Will maintained his eligibility? Did he hire an agent that was NCAA approved or did he declare and not give himself opportunity to return?
 
#439      
oskeewowwowboomtime
PleaseMakeABowlGame said:
but what if that 2.5 is promised to be guaranteed? .... no matter what. No matter who we have, or how much we've spent, we've got a roster spot with 2.5 waiting for you if you want to come back.

The misconception with the $$ situation is that teams operate under a set, strict cap when that's simply not true. Brad can always go back to the donors and ask for more.
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#440      
Aillini32
NarrowJ said:
That’s interesting, Tomi was pretty much a year younger and they said he was a sophomore. Seems there’s no rhyme or reason to it, but most of the podcasts and such are expecting him to get at least two years. Would speculate Zurig has some one-off type of thing causing him issues with being eligible given what the norm has been.
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If I had to guess it would be more about the amount of years they have played pro ball. Petrovic has played more than Tomi which is why I was expecting him to be listed as a Junior as the best case scenario
 
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PasadenaIllini
BretMyBeachHouse said:
The money has gotten bigger, even from a year ago when people here were wondering if Christie might come.

At the same time, it's a huge risk for a kid to not enter the portal under those circumstances. Whatever money we have to bring him back is also available for another top talent.

Let's say that Riley tells the staff that he'd consider coming back for 2.5 but wants to wait until closer to the withdrawal date. Let's also say that Sarr tells them tomorrow that he'll come for 2.5. What does the staff do? Take Sarr I assume. Now Riley is homeless if he drops out.
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Forget about this completely. Sarr will cost at least 4 million. Most likely north of 5.
 
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BretMyBeachHouse
PleaseMakeABowlGame said:
but what if that 2.5 is promised to be guaranteed? .... no matter what. No matter who we have, or how much we've spent, we've got a roster spot with 2.5 waiting for you if you want to come back.

The misconception with the $$ situation is that teams operate under a set, strict cap when that's simply not true. Brad can always go back to the donors and ask for more.
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No, teams don't operate under a "strict cap" but they operate under a practical cap.

And there is no benefit to us for holding a money aside for a particular player. That puts our roster construction under the power of the player.

But I like how we've now progressed from "I wonder if there's a chance to get Will back" to "We can afford both Sarr and Will." At which point we add in Boogie Fland and start using A1 to generate fun Magnificent 7 memes.
 
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Bbuck21
Aillini32 said:
Creighton’s Fedor Zugic is even younger than Petrovic and as of now was only granted a half season of college play. He played near the same amount of seasons of pro ball. It’s possible he’s a sophomore or Junior but unless Zugic has other circumstances I’d be surprised if Petrovic is able to play more than one season. Gtfo with the factually correct and ignorant bs when you don’t know
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How did he slip through our fingers?
 
#447      
ptgrd23
Brad has done great job recruiting. Great plan A and B. Recovered nicely from Morez surprise.

Andrej can handle ball like Will and do booty ball

Big Z and Mircovic add size. Ty adds rebounding.

Petrovic and two freshman give us 4 guards.

We are good even without Will
 
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OB positive
With all the variables involved in determining years of eligibility I don't know why there is any problem with them having played ball in Europe. It appears the only thing relevant is the years they have played d1 ball. Wouldn't surprise me if they let someone who played a couple of years in the NBA but didn't stick come back and play college ball if they hadn't been in before.
 
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