Chicago White Sox 2025

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One of my best friends from college is a huge Sox fan. Grew up in Cal City and lives in Lansing now. If push comes to shove, I think he ends up becoming a Cardinals fan.
I think it’s easier to still be a fan of your original team from 400/500 miles away than to pick a new team to follow

it’s not like you can easily get the Cards on radio or TV in chicagoland any easier than following the Sox in Nashville .
 
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I think it’s easier to still be a fan of your original team from 400/500 miles away than to pick a new team to follow

it’s not like you can easily get the Cards on radio or TV in chicagoland any easier than following the Sox in Nashville .

With the FanDuel Sports app on Prime Video, it's a lot easier than you think to watch them. When I was on vacation in Florida in April, I was still able to watch the games on my laptop even though I was out of market. Radio I would agree as I think the furthest north their radio network used to go was Machesney Park. The closest to the Chicagoland area now would probably be in either Peoria or Bloomington.
 
#205      
Comcast has reached an agreement with Chicago Sports Network to carry their games. Which means, starting Monday, no more over the air coverage of the White Sox. So the Sox are blacked out in my house. :(
 
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Attendance at Sox Park last night: 36,916.

All the Sox ever have to do is give the fans something decent to look at and Sox fans will fill the place. This has been going on for generations. Sox fans are discerning.

They almost killed off the Sox franchise after 1967 by incompetence and almost moving the team. 1970 was a horrendous year. Yet, by 1972 Sox fans were again filling the place. Why? Dick Allen gave fans something to look at. And the team itself became competitive again.

This will happen again now that the Sox are showcasing good young talent. Meidroth, Teel, Quero, Elko, and Vargas are looking good. So are some of the young pitchers. The Sox trend-line is UP.
 
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What makes you think this? He lives in Chicago and has real roots here. Is it just the commercial opportunity?
He has a law degree from Vanderbilt and is minority owner of a soccer team there. And the Nashville metro area has a population of 2+ million.
 
#211      
pretty hard to go against MLB & move to a likely expansion city & the money that involves MLB giving up . not impossible -just difficult .

the sooner Reinsdorf sells , the better . nothing really will occur until he does

Ishbia needs to determine whete the long term value of the team is maximized . the grass is not always greener should they move . giving up 1/2 the market or close to that in Chicago is not a sure thing vs Nashville or Charlotte or SLC or Mexico City .
 
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pretty hard to go against MLB & move to a likely expansion city & the money that involves MLB giving up . not impossible -just difficult .

the sooner Reinsdorf sells , the better . nothing really will occur until he does

Ishbia needs to determine whete the long term value of the team is maximized . the grass is not always greener should they move . giving up 1/2 the market or close to that in Chicago is not a sure thing vs Nashville or Charlotte or SLC or Mexico City .
The problem is that they'll never have 50% of the market in Chicago. They'll never have close to that. They're currently in a dump of a stadium, are a stones throw away from the projects and in an area where there's absolutely nothing to do. The parking situation is good, the prices are obviously cheap, and the food inside the park is great, so it's not a total dumpster fire.

They'll always be second fiddle in Chicago and that will most definitely be a consideration.

As a businessman, he's got to look at the market, growth potential and the ability to work with the state to get a legitimate stadium built in an area that is appealing to the average fan.

Carolina is an area that is screaming for a baseball team and the Sox would be a natural fit given the area's affiliation with their minor league team and the support for it. Carolina supports hockey, football, basketball.....just one sport missing. It has to be a consideration.

We'll see.
 
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while they will never get more than 35%-40% of the Chicago market , that is still a huge potential fanbase . I really have a hard time seeing MLB giving up on the AL portion of Chicago and letting the SOX grab an expansion city without paying the 1,5-2 Billion fee.

there are ways that both the Bears & Sox can fully fund their stadiums without govt money and still make a fortune .
 
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Comcast has reached an agreement with Chicago Sports Network to carry their games. Which means, starting Monday, no more over the air coverage of the White Sox. So the Sox are blacked out in my house. :(

Only catch is it's on the Ultimate tier of the channels that Comcast offers, which means you'll have to pay an extra $20/month in addition to the regular regional sports fee that Comcast already charges. At this point, I think Marquee is the only regional sports network that anyone in this state that can get that Comcast hasn't bumped up to the higher tier at this point.
 
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while they will never get more than 35%-40% of the Chicago market , that is still a huge potential fanbase . I really have a hard time seeing MLB giving up on the AL portion of Chicago and letting the SOX grab an expansion city without paying the 1,5-2 Billion fee.

there are ways that both the Bears & Sox can fully fund their stadiums without govt money and still make a fortune .
Have to agree here. From a real estate perspective they’re also in a high growth part of the city. Folks forget what Wrigleyville was like 80s/90s
 
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while they will never get more than 35%-40% of the Chicago market , that is still a huge potential fanbase . I really have a hard time seeing MLB giving up on the AL portion of Chicago and letting the SOX grab an expansion city without paying the 1,5-2 Billion fee.

there are ways that both the Bears & Sox can fully fund their stadiums without govt money and still make a fortune .

If the Sox can manage to spend some $ and build in the South Loop (assuming they can agree with the Fire) or build an entertainment complex at the Michael Reese site they could draw some big numbers, regardless of how many of those are die hards.

It really could blunt the loss of the Bears and add a great dimension to the city. Would be pretty amazing, but who knows what they really will do. It would be a big loss, but seeing how fast they agreed on a potential ownership shift after the Fire announced their new stadium it makes me think they want something big done in Chicago - at least I hope they do.
 
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while they will never get more than 35%-40% of the Chicago market , that is still a huge potential fanbase . I really have a hard time seeing MLB giving up on the AL portion of Chicago and letting the SOX grab an expansion city without paying the 1,5-2 Billion fee.

Sox fans hope you are right. But one has to remember that they once moved TWO baseball teams out of the most influential city in North America. And as for fans and markets... they moved the real Cleveland Browns away from the passionate Cleveland Browns fans. And the Colts away from equally passionate Baltmore fans.

One could say -- yeah, they moved two teams out of New York but they knew they would get another team. Maybe. But if the Sox move away from Chicago it's not likely that another team would move in and take their place. At one time the Oakland A's were rumored to be exploring that. But nothing like that looks likely any more. Too many issues politically and financially in Chicago and Illinois and few want to compete with the team North of Madison Street.
 
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Only catch is it's on the Ultimate tier of the channels that Comcast offers, which means you'll have to pay an extra $20/month in addition to the regular regional sports fee that Comcast already charges. At this point, I think Marquee is the only regional sports network that anyone in this state that can get that Comcast hasn't bumped up to the higher tier at this point.
Reports are that Marquee will be bumped up to the ultimate tier next season.
 
#219      
Reports are that Marquee will be bumped up to the ultimate tier next season.
Thankfully I would only need to watch CHSN for the Bulls so I could go the streaming route option that they have with that if I absolutely had to. Having the FanDuel Sports app as an add-on through Prime Video has helped me with being able to watch Cardinals and Blues.
 
#220      
Prolly discussed before but could the Bears and Sox share a stadium?
Bears play for a year+ in Comiskey (or at UI) while Soldier Field is replaced with a retractable dome, dual purpose stadium.
Then both move to the new stadium.
With a dome, it could do the Super Bowl, a major bowl, game, etc
 
#221      
Prolly discussed before but could the Bears and Sox share a stadium?
Bears play for a year+ in Comiskey (or at UI) while Soldier Field is replaced with a retractable dome, dual purpose stadium.
Then both move to the new stadium.
With a dome, it could do the Super Bowl, a major bowl, game, etc
nope
Im 99.9% sure the NFL will not allow dual purpose football/baseball stadiums anymore. maybe as a stop gap for an expansion city, but not as a long term plan

the economics today are such that it is not necessary anywhere

besides, while football loves domes or quasi domes, baseball hates them
 
#222      
Retractable domes are more expensive, I believe, and any time you have moving parts you're more likely to have things go wrong. I'd expect a fixed roof stadium for the Bears.

As for sharing a field, I'd think too much of the season overlaps (August though September at least, maybe through early November if the baseball season goes well) to make it feasible. It's a fun one-off, but I doubt sharing would become a regular occurrence. I'd bet on the Bears and Fire sharing being more likely just based on MLS teams playing 34 games compared to 162 for an MLB team. That's a lot easier to manage around.
 
#223      
Sox def trending up: 22-44 now, for .333 winning pct
More interesting to me:
- some recent sox lowlights show some pretty inept fielding, BUT
- Sox only have 284 runs against in 66 games; 1st place Dodgers have 293 RA, also in 66 games!
- with the new call-up's starting to click in hitting, things are looking up!
- I recall a post here not too long ago which had that day's lineup's BA's and there were nothing but .0xx and .1xx so "times, they are a-changing"!
 
#224      
Sox def trending up: 22-44 now, for .333 winning pct
More interesting to me:
- some recent sox lowlights show some pretty inept fielding, BUT
- Sox only have 284 runs against in 66 games; 1st place Dodgers have 293 RA, also in 66 games!
- with the new call-up's starting to click in hitting, things are looking up!
- I recall a post here not too long ago which had that day's lineup's BA's and there were nothing but .0xx and .1xx so "times, they are a-changing"!
Fun to see this bunch of rookies break into the league.
 
#225      
Retractable domes are more expensive, I believe, and any time you have moving parts you're more likely to have things go wrong. I'd expect a fixed roof stadium for the Bears.

As for sharing a field, I'd think too much of the season overlaps (August though September at least, maybe through early November if the baseball season goes well) to make it feasible. It's a fun one-off, but I doubt sharing would become a regular occurrence. I'd bet on the Bears and Fire sharing being more likely just based on MLS teams playing 34 games compared to 162 for an MLB team. That's a lot easier to manage around.
We’ve been mostly pleased with our retractable roof at Safeco/T-Mobile for the past couple decades. Not one weather-related cancellation in all that time as far as I know.
 
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