Illinois 45, Duke 19 Postgame

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Illinicpa14
Second place is 1st loser said:
Lets be honest and not Monday morning QB this one. The first half was absolutely atrocious and the final score is not indicative of how this game was played.

You couldn't look at one unit on our team that was outplaying theirs. We got beat in every conceivable aspect, but turnovers. When you win that battle 5-0, plus get dropped balls, uniform penalties, etc, you should win 100% of all games. Lets not pretend like there aren't major concerns

The first 35 minutes was horrendous, the first 45 improved to bad, HOWEVER, the 4th quarter was pretty much perfection. The late scores put some makeup on this one.

We can(and do) woulda, coulda, shoulda all games to death, but in this one.....we shoulda probably been down three scores at that half. The fact we were winning was a minor miracle.

Both lines and the corners have to be better. Thx corners have to be a LOT better. Glad we adjusted on the offensive side at the half. Quick slants, screens, play action.....it all slows down a pass rush and over active defensive ends.

Not sure we have things figured out on the defensive side yet. Worried about those interior linemen, but onward and upward.
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Not disagreeing first half could have looked a lot different but to me, this is what good, top 15 programs do when you have a not great game. Limit other teams ability to be up multiple scores and then turn it on at some point during the game. Agree the 5-0 turnovers isn’t going to be sustainable.

I equate this to when our basketball team looks bad in a non-conf for 25 minutes and then turns it on with a huge run to end the game. Yes we know we didn’t play the absolute best, but you take the quality W and move on. Good news is this team won’t get full of themselves, there’s more to clean up.
 
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#229      
Hpbush
Second place is 1st loser said:
Lets be honest and not Monday morning QB this one. The first half was absolutely atrocious and the final score is not indicative of how this game was played.

You couldn't look at one unit on our team that was outplaying theirs. We got beat in every conceivable aspect, but turnovers. When you win that battle 5-0, plus get dropped balls, uniform penalties, etc, you should win 100% of all games. Lets not pretend like there aren't major concerns

The first 35 minutes was horrendous, the first 45 improved to bad, HOWEVER, the 4th quarter was pretty much perfection. The late scores put some makeup on this one.

We can(and do) woulda, coulda, shoulda all games to death, but in this one.....we shoulda probably been down three scores at that half. The fact we were winning was a minor miracle.

Both lines and the corners have to be better. Thx corners have to be a LOT better. Glad we adjusted on the offensive side at the half. Quick slants, screens, play action.....it all slows down a pass rush and over active defensive ends.

Not sure we have things figured out on the defensive side yet. Worried about those interior linemen, but onward and upward.
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Genuine advice. Shut the hell up and enjoy things as they are, It’s a lot more fun.
 
#230      
Fly Illini Fly!
Second place is 1st loser said:
Lets be honest and not Monday morning QB this one. The first half was absolutely atrocious and the final score is not indicative of how this game was played.

You couldn't look at one unit on our team that was outplaying theirs. We got beat in every conceivable aspect, but turnovers. When you win that battle 5-0, plus get dropped balls, uniform penalties, etc, you should win 100% of all games. Lets not pretend like there aren't major concerns

The first 35 minutes was horrendous, the first 45 improved to bad, HOWEVER, the 4th quarter was pretty much perfection. The late scores put some makeup on this one.

We can(and do) woulda, coulda, shoulda all games to death, but in this one.....we shoulda probably been down three scores at that half. The fact we were winning was a minor miracle.

Both lines and the corners have to be better. Thx corners have to be a LOT better. Glad we adjusted on the offensive side at the half. Quick slants, screens, play action.....it all slows down a pass rush and over active defensive ends.

Not sure we have things figured out on the defensive side yet. Worried about those interior linemen, but onward and upward.
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Quarterback.
 
#231      
OrangeBlue98
Second place is 1st loser said:
Lets be honest and not Monday morning QB this one. The first half was absolutely atrocious and the final score is not indicative of how this game was played.

You couldn't look at one unit on our team that was outplaying theirs. We got beat in every conceivable aspect, but turnovers. When you win that battle 5-0, plus get dropped balls, uniform penalties, etc, you should win 100% of all games. Lets not pretend like there aren't major concerns

The first 35 minutes was horrendous, the first 45 improved to bad, HOWEVER, the 4th quarter was pretty much perfection. The late scores put some makeup on this one.

We can(and do) woulda, coulda, shoulda all games to death, but in this one.....we shoulda probably been down three scores at that half. The fact we were winning was a minor miracle.

Both lines and the corners have to be better. Thx corners have to be a LOT better. Glad we adjusted on the offensive side at the half. Quick slants, screens, play action.....it all slows down a pass rush and over active defensive ends.

Not sure we have things figured out on the defensive side yet. Worried about those interior linemen, but onward and upward.
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Good teams find a way to win when they aren’t playing well.

Really good teams find a way to win by multiple scores on the road against a power conference bowl team when they aren’t playing well.
 
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PleaseMakeABowlGame
Second place is 1st loser said:
Lets be honest and not Monday morning QB this one. The first half was absolutely atrocious and the final score is not indicative of how this game was played.

You couldn't look at one unit on our team that was outplaying theirs. We got beat in every conceivable aspect, but turnovers. When you win that battle 5-0, plus get dropped balls, uniform penalties, etc, you should win 100% of all games. Lets not pretend like there aren't major concerns

The first 35 minutes was horrendous, the first 45 improved to bad, HOWEVER, the 4th quarter was pretty much perfection. The late scores put some makeup on this one.

We can(and do) woulda, coulda, shoulda all games to death, but in this one.....we shoulda probably been down three scores at that half. The fact we were winning was a minor miracle.

Both lines and the corners have to be better. Thx corners have to be a LOT better. Glad we adjusted on the offensive side at the half. Quick slants, screens, play action.....it all slows down a pass rush and over active defensive ends.

Not sure we have things figured out on the defensive side yet. Worried about those interior linemen, but onward and upward.
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we still won by 26 🤷‍♂️
 
#235      
OrangeBlue98
PNWIllini said:
The second half offense was vintage Bielema. Wisconsin 2008. Just demoralized the defense with long drives. Choke the game out. You live for that kind of game takeover. I do anyway.
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For me, there is nothing more satisfying in a football game than when everyone knows your team is going to pound the ball down the opponent’s throat, and there will absolutely nothing they can do to stop it.
 
#238      
IlliniCaboose
illini0440 said:
I just went through the first 20 pages of the coaching search thread…..yall hated Bret and thought he was a grade a D bag without actually knowing him 🤣(not you Bzup) but a lot of fans
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*Hand up* I was for sure one of them.
In my defense I grew up in Wisconsin during the Alverez and early Bret tenure so I hated him from that. I'm pretty sure I said something along the lines of he'd be involved in a drunken scandal at a sorority house.
I've eaten my crow before, but I'll do it again when it's brought up.
 
#241      
RockfordIllini
Turnover fairy was with us today. That said, really impressive to win like that on the road against a really good team with game wreckers on defense and maybe the best QB we see all year.

But we can play so, so much better. Offensive line was abysmal in the first half. And for whatever reason, Altmeyer couldn’t hit a slant to save his life. Those are normally his bread and butter and it was open all game. He must have missed 6 easy ones including a touchdown to Dixon. He hits his slants and we don’t even need the turnover fairy IMO.

Defense looks more bend but don’t break than dominant. But like last year, mostly kept plays in front of them and made enough plays to keep Duke out of the end zone on a few drives. Should be enough most games.

Think our O Line will level up eventually and Luke will build enough rapport with his new receivers where we will be really dangerous. Question is can it all come together in time for Indiana and USC? We get through those games unscathed we’ve got a really good shot at the playoff. Which is crazy! Soak it in…
 
#242      
AutoPoster 3000
Recorded the game and watching it now (my son’s first hockey game of the year was this afternoon).

“Manny Diaz told me everything is going right for us with the exception of the turnovers. He said we clean that up in the second half and we will win this game.” Ha ha ha how did that turn out dude?
 
#244      
PleaseMakeABowlGame
AutoPoster 3000 said:
Recorded the game and watching it now (my son’s first hockey game of the year was this afternoon).

“Manny Diaz told me everything is going right for us with the exception of the turnovers. He said we clean that up in the second half and we will win this game.” Ha ha ha how did that turn out dude?
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They did not clean that up in the second half.
 
#247      
Todd99
OrangeBlue98 said:
Good teams find a way to win when they aren’t playing well.

Really good teams find a way to win by multiple scores on the road against a power conference bowl team when they aren’t playing well.
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Well said!
 
#248      
aaeismacgychel
Second place is 1st loser said:
Lets be honest and not Monday morning QB this one. The first half was absolutely atrocious and the final score is not indicative of how this game was played.

You couldn't look at one unit on our team that was outplaying theirs. We got beat in every conceivable aspect, but turnovers. When you win that battle 5-0, plus get dropped balls, uniform penalties, etc, you should win 100% of all games. Lets not pretend like there aren't major concerns

The first 35 minutes was horrendous, the first 45 improved to bad, HOWEVER, the 4th quarter was pretty much perfection. The late scores put some makeup on this one.

We can(and do) woulda, coulda, shoulda all games to death, but in this one.....we shoulda probably been down three scores at that half. The fact we were winning was a minor miracle.

Both lines and the corners have to be better. Thx corners have to be a LOT better. Glad we adjusted on the offensive side at the half. Quick slants, screens, play action.....it all slows down a pass rush and over active defensive ends.

Not sure we have things figured out on the defensive side yet. Worried about those interior linemen, but onward and upward.
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While your point is made, we did not look good against Duke through the first half, we must also understand this was against a Power 5 team on the road in our first road game and we closed them out the way good teams do when they're playing their C game at best.

But to say we lost every aspect of the game, pretending that special teams doesn't exist despite both the muffed fumble recovery, the 2 #8's on the field call out such the refs could hear and see it, allowing next to nothing on returns, and hitting all FGs and EPs while having a good game from the punter. I mean, you're just looking for problems at that point.

We absolutely need to be better, no question. The lines especially need to be better. The coverage needs to be better, and we can't drop so many balls, but when you beat a Power 5 team in your first road game by over 3 touchdowns, just enjoy it a little. Just a little. When's the last time we did that? 24 years ago?
 
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lstewart53x3
Second place is 1st loser said:
Lets be honest and not Monday morning QB this one. The first half was absolutely atrocious and the final score is not indicative of how this game was played.

You couldn't look at one unit on our team that was outplaying theirs. We got beat in every conceivable aspect, but turnovers. When you win that battle 5-0, plus get dropped balls, uniform penalties, etc, you should win 100% of all games. Lets not pretend like there aren't major concerns

The first 35 minutes was horrendous, the first 45 improved to bad, HOWEVER, the 4th quarter was pretty much perfection. The late scores put some makeup on this one.

We can(and do) woulda, coulda, shoulda all games to death, but in this one.....we shoulda probably been down three scores at that half. The fact we were winning was a minor miracle.

Both lines and the corners have to be better. Thx corners have to be a LOT better. Glad we adjusted on the offensive side at the half. Quick slants, screens, play action.....it all slows down a pass rush and over active defensive ends.

Not sure we have things figured out on the defensive side yet. Worried about those interior linemen, but onward and upward.
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Before today’s game, we lost our previous 6 non-con road games by an average of 24 points. Excuse me while I go celebrate our 26 point non-con road win.
 
#250      
BrownTown
aaeismacgychel said:
While your point is made, we did not look good against Duke through the first half, we must also understand this was against a Power 5 team on the road in our first road game and we closed them out the way good teams do when they're playing their C game at best.

But to say we lost every aspect of the game, pretending that special teams doesn't exist despite both the muffed fumble recovery, the 2 #8's on the field call out such the refs could hear and see it, allowing next to nothing on returns, and hitting all FGs and EPs while having a good game from the punter. I mean, you're just looking for problems at that point.

We absolutely need to be better, no question. The lines especially need to be better. The coverage needs to be better, and we can't drop so many balls, but when you beat a Power 5 team in your first road game by over 3 touchdowns, just enjoy it a little. Just a little. When's the last time we did that? 24 years ago?
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Felt like we never really got everybody on the same page during the WIU game and it just carried forward into the first half today.

Think the offense really clicked in the 2nd half and I fully expect to see a more cohesive unit moving forward.

Seem to also have found our go to dudes in the receiving room.

Beatty
Bowick
Dixon
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Everyone else.

That also seems to be shaking up similarly in the RB room...

Valentine is the guy.

Feagin will get there, but is soo slow his first 3 steps that it almost negates his size on his interior runs. Hope Thad Ward instills in him NO SIDESTEPS.

GOT TO BE A NORTH SOUTH GUY
 
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