TentakilRex
- Land O Insects between Quincy-Macomb-Jacksonville
It is official ridiculous rumor season on the carousel
Thought a Cowboys, go hire him Badgers
Thought a Cowboys, go hire him Badgers
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Taylor makes $2.8 million. Lunney $1 million
Man, what a dick move by the AD! Pretty rough move given the current state of Fickell's standing with the fans. Oh well, It's Wiscy so what do I care. Lol
Given that you have more exposure to our football staff than most of us, what changes do you believe need to be made?
Mike Gundy out
Traylor from UTSA has to be on short list
Kinne, Traylor, Odom, Klein …
didn't know odom was from oklahoma, but do you leave a power 2 job for oklahoma state?
This is pretty crazy. The guy has been their coach for 21 years. His overall record is 170-90, he has only had 2 losing seasons in 20 seasons, and one of those was his 1st season. 18 bowl appearances, 12 bowl wins, ended 11 seasons ranked in the top 25, with the most recent being #16 just 2 seasons ago, he was #7 4 seasons ago. He's looking to perhaps for only the 2nd time in 2 decades have back-to-back losing seasons and they fire him 3 games into a season.
People love to rip on those evil coaches who are, but this is BS. He lost to a top 10 team and had a bad loss and they said that's it, he's done. That's insane. I don't fault a coach at all to get whatever they can in this day and age, because the sports world is absolutely crazy.
Hopefully he took it like "a Man".
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
- Des Moines, IA
It’s all about what have you done for me lately.
He was 3-9 last season. It was pretty common knowledge that his job was in serious jeopardy if he didn’t start well.
I’m not saying it’s right. I’m saying it’s reality.
and I'm saying the reality is completely ridiculous. We sit from the sidelines and say everyone is greedy. Leaving schools for more money. But when there is no loyalty in any aspect of the sport, then why would anyone not try to get theirs at all times?
We've seen this so many times. You fire a long time coach who was getting the job done, because you have determined he's not performing to the standard you want. You hire a new guy who is worse, and then everyone is mad and you rotate through coaches until you find another guy that can hopefully do as well as the guy you fired.
Felt this same way when UNC fired Mack Brown to hire Belichick. Everyone sees what can happen when you luck out with a good hire (i.e. Cignetti). The vast majority of hires don't work out that way, but I think there are more and more programs that would rather take a 5% shot at hitting on the next Cignetti than keep on a guy who is going more often than not deliver solid results but will never make the playoff.
sbillini
- st petersburg, fl
devils advocate - or you stick to your historically good but not keeping up with the changing landscape coach too long until the program slowly withers away (i'd say iowa and ferentz may be in that boat right now). tough call without getting an understanding of the inner workings of what's been going behind the scenes.
I sure as heck don't think you fire your coach of 21 years 3 games into the season. What is the benefit of that? Showing you're super mad? You're not getting a new coach for next week.
It's not just wins and losses here. Like another poster mentioned, Gundy hasn't adapted to the new ways of working. He also pissed off a lot of the money there.
they will get one of the real good coaches from G4 out of Texas or OC Klein from A&M
none are sure thing, but the trend for Gundy was downward now for 3 years. it was inevitable
this allows them to start back channeling to those guys they want without it getting back to Gundy if he was still the guy
I mean he lost his last 11 FBS games … It was time …
I am a little surprised they didn’t let him finish the season but it was off the rails in the off season and then after week 2 it was win or else …
losing to in state step brother Tulsa would be like us losing to NIU. it was final straw
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Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
The way he complained in the media about NIL disparity going into the Oregon game highlighted, to me at least, that the game has moved past him. It was such a defeatist attitude, and it bore out on the field against Oregon. To back that lack of a competitive game with the disaster at home to Tulsa, it is hard to see how he could continue with the program. The writing was on the wall going into the season. I understand the argument of maintaining him at least through the season, but as IU has shown, if you get the right coach, you can turn the program around very quickly. Therefore, it makes sense to get an early start on the replacement process.
This is what bothers me the most. He's probably the best coach OK State has ever had. Yes they've had guys that went on to better things, but at OK State, I think it is Gundy. If you're going to move on, I think he's earned better.
I agree with a lot of this, except the last part. Not sure what it even means to get an "early start." Nobody who you actually want is going to leave their current team right now. Recruits aren't going to commit to your interim coach - they'll just wait on a permanent replacement anyway. Only advantages I can think of to doing it now except for immediately after the last game are if he's completely lost the locker room or if you want to give your interim replacement a legit shot to earn the job (which they probably don't).
There's not a lot of room for sentimentality in today's college football landscape, but maybe there should be at least a little. Gundy is not a good coach right now. But the guy is indisputably the greatest coach in the history of OSU football. He's an OSU guy through and through. In addition to being the head coach for 21 seasons, he played there and was a long-time assistant there. Since he stepped foot on campus as a freshman in 1986, he's basically been at OSU every year except for a brief period from 1996-2000 when he was an assistant at Baylor and Maryland. The guy devoted basically his whole adult life to Oklahoma St. football. I think they could have let him have these last 9 games.
(Interesting note, if you look at Oklahoma St.'s best 10 seasons as determined by final AP ranking, Gundy coached 5 of them, and was their starting QB for 2 of them).
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I don't think BLj is on any short lists right now...
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