The “It Could Be Worse” Thread

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Mr. Tibbs
he certainly doesn’t bleed hoosier crimson like Bobby Knight

but at his age , I would think it would have to be a pretty large bag from Bama or Florida
 
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Illiniguy13
STLini25 said:
Why? Indiana has the 13th biggest athletic department budget (source USA Today)
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Money can make a lot of things happen. You can’t purchase history, culture or a prominent football brand in a relatively concise period of time. People can insist that’s old fashioned thinking, and to a degree it is - I get that. But those things exist in spades elsewhere in the football world beyond Bloomington, Indiana. Of course, they may not matter to some recruits. They may not matter to Curt Cignetti. They still matter to a lot of people. NIL resources have made a massive splash and undoubtedly changed the game, but it’s not some infinity-gauntlet that has instantly erased the scales of power in the college football universe…yet
 
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STLini25
That was in response to a poster saying it’s “untenable for Indiana to compete with Clemson and Florida.”

Indiana has a bigger budget than Clemson and is in the Big Ten whereas Clemson is likely locked out of the BT and SEC and likely long term in a conference competing with Wake Forest and Syracuse and UConn with less than 50% of the TV revenue as Indiana. I don’t think it’s untenable for Indiana to compete with the programs in the ranks of 10-25 in the new era of college football.

The kids schools are recruiting were born in 2010. Indiana has been a power since they were 13 or 14 playing in front of sellout crowds. The kids care about how good the program and coaches and facilities are now. You might be overvaluing success 20 years before the kids were born when there was a major change in CF a few years ago.
 
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gibb52
Now that they have beaten us I'd like nothing better than Indy to crash the party of OSU/Georgia/Bama same old same old power programs. Run the table. Win the B1G championship game by 3 TD's and do the same every game in the playoffs and win it all. Show everyone (including ILL) that the NIL world rules the game now and anyone can win, all you need is good coaching and a really fat wallet. I wish it was us but I'm sick of the same teams every year.
 
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altgeld88
IlliniKat91 said:
Much more personal pick me up, but one of my friends from college who still works for Illinois sent me this sweater for our soon-to-arrive baby girl. (The John Deere teether was included on her parents' advice. I can't stop grinning at both items.)
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That teether is something! A little piece of Moline for your little one when she arrives. :love:

I also enjoyed your subsequent comment that you hope that yelling at the Illini doesn't send you into labor. It's not "IF the Illini do something that causes me to blow a gasket." No, that's inevitable....you just just hope your reaction doesn't have knock-on effects!!
 
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IlliniKat91
altgeld88 said:
That teether is something! A little piece of Moline for your little one when she arrives. :love:

I also enjoyed your subsequent comment that you hope that yelling at the Illini doesn't send you into labor. It's not "IF the Illini do something that causes me to blow a gasket." No, that's inevitable....you just just hope your reaction doesn't have knock-on effects!!
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Been here long enough to know that I will absolutely yell because of them. Just depends on if it's out of joy or frustration. For baby girl's sake, I'm hoping it's out of joy :LOL:
 
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Curbelo Fanboy
STLini25 said:
Why? Indiana has the 13th biggest athletic department budget (source USA Today)
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I just meant that it is more likely that the pockets are much deeper at some historical powers in college football to pay top dollar across the board for coaches, staff, players, etc than there is in Bloomington. I'd imagine lots of the IU faithful are happy with their success but would still rather be good in hoops vs football & invest accordingly. Maybe the mega deal isn't what drives Cignetti which could factor into him staying.

Nothing in his background suggests a deep connection to IU that could trump $$. All his experience prior to there is out east or down south. I just suspect if a FL, Clemson get in a bidding war for a football coach, IU will scream mercy before they would. A lot of that is based on historical perception.
 
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altgeld88
IlliniKat91 said:
Been here long enough to know that I will absolutely yell because of them. Just depends on if it's out of joy or frustration. For baby girl's sake, I'm hoping it's out of joy :LOL:
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Kat's daughter in therapist's office c. 2050:

Therapist: "What unhappiness and conflict might have been happening in your home around the time of your birth that could have contributed to this chronic anxiety and extreme aversion to the color orange?"

Kat's Daughter: "Catastrophic interior blocking and a depleted secondary."
 
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STLini25
Curbelo Fanboy said:
I just meant that it is more likely that the pockets are much deeper at some historical powers in college football to pay top dollar across the board for coaches, staff, players, etc than there is in Bloomington. I'd imagine lots of the IU faithful are happy with their success but would still rather be good in hoops vs football & invest accordingly. Maybe the mega deal isn't what drives Cignetti which could factor into him staying.

Nothing in his background suggests a deep connection to IU that could trump $$. All his experience prior to there is out east or down south. I just suspect if a FL, Clemson get in a bidding war for a football coach, IU will scream mercy before they would. A lot of that is based on historical perception.
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Obviously anything is possible but for some modern perspective Indiana currently pays their football coach more than Florida does
 
#113      
BryceHopkins
Hmmm... is it easier for Cignetti to win a NC at Indiana or Florida? The correct answer is:

Tommy Lee Jones I Dont Care GIF
 
#114      
Calvin
STLini25 said:
That was in response to a poster saying it’s “untenable for Indiana to compete with Clemson and Florida.”

Indiana has a bigger budget than Clemson and is in the Big Ten whereas Clemson is likely locked out of the BT and SEC and likely long term in a conference competing with Wake Forest and Syracuse and UConn with less than 50% of the TV revenue as Indiana. I don’t think it’s untenable for Indiana to compete with the programs in the ranks of 10-25 in the new era of college football.
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And it's why FSU (and Clemson) were throwing fits as realignment shook out and left them further behind. They'd have been coveted targets were it not for the bet they placed on an outlandishly long media rights contract.
 
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Oracle21
Illini2010-11 said:
I am not certain that you can make a definitive statement like that. There is no data in the new college landscape that can prove this point without a doubt.

What might be lost is that these major programs like Bama, Georgia, etc. always had extremely high-end talent that would wait a year or two to become the starters. With NIL the way it is, that talent has no clear incentive to simply wait for their turn. If anything, we are seeing a great equalizing across the country, where very solid coaching is imperative (look at Clemson's falloff recently as an example).

In the new landscape, the right coach can bring in talent to his system and succeed at virtually any major program in the SEC/B1G (provided they receive the right support). Given lower expectations at a place like IU compared to Bama, I think it actually might be easier to win at IU (less second guessing by the entire fanbase over every little thing).
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Brian Kelly left Notre Dame for LSU because he wanted more talent and didn’t think he could win the national title at ND.

I don’t know about Cignetti’s attitude towards that, but I’d be shocked if he turned down Alabama. He was there when they dominated under Saban. He probably believes he can do the same thing and I would expect him to do that.

Cignetti can take average talent and make them great. I’d expect if you gave him access great talent you’d get Nick Saban results at Bama
 
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