Illinois 34, USC 32 Postgame

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Watched the full Fox CFB highlights:

•He will probably get razzed about it in film, but my man Dixon gotta get into the end zone on that 4th quarter catch! No more looking back, just gotta burn em!

•Am I crazy or was that absolutely terrible spotting on the Feagin run to set up the Olano kick? Should have been first down?
The funny thing is #24 for USC caught him but he got no where close to Feagin in his long run.
 
#478      
Good teams find a way to win … Gritty win …

OL much improved … Offense looked good … Ball security is the drill of the week …

Defense … Work to be done … A lot of it … Tackling is the drill of the week …

Few hours to enjoy this and onto the next opportunity …

Enjoy the afternoon ladies & gents …

Much needed after that …

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Is there a solution to fixing the defense? Seems that we may not have the personnel to stop good offensive players.
 
#479      
Just two things to “fix” on defense.
Tackling and consistent pressure on the QB.

All the hand wringing about Sat, but that was the best offense in CFB.
If X was healthy we win that game by 3 TDs.
 
#480      
Just two things to “fix” on defense.
Tackling and consistent pressure on the QB.

All the hand wringing about Sat, but that was the best offense in CFB.
If X was healthy we win that game by 3 TDs.
I’d say we did a hell of a good job tackling (especially in comparison to previous games) and we had a lot of QB pressure as well. We just played a ton of soft coverage which led to easy dink and dunks.

I watched the condensed game and man it felt like we had our foot on their necks the majority of the game. The hardest 180 I’ve ever seen a team pull after that Indiana game.

The amount of forth down conversions they had was insane. Some truly great TE catches and QB play so absolutely hats off (and Lemon was the best player on the field). Our line play was better on 90% of snaps, both sides of the ball.

Frankly I felt pretty good leaving the game, even better after watching the replay. Just an A+++ response by this team.
 
#481      
I thought the defense fought pretty hard considering how good USC's offense is. The handful of long conversions on 3rd and 4th down was the only super frustrating part.

Our guys were clearly scared to hit WR's coming across the middle on those floating passes, and I cant blame them. Nobody wants to risk getting a targeting call. Miles Scott went low multiple times, which isnt really an effectiveway to break up the pass IMO. I think there has to be a better way to attack the ball while still avoiding targeting.
 
#482      
It was only 1 fumble but other than that your post is valid.
I don’t agree with the statement that fumbles are unacceptable. Turnovers happen in basically every college and pro game played.

USC turned the ball over on a drive that was clearly headed for a touchdown. USC moved the ball down the field the entire game.

This game was close. We were very lucky that USC scored early on the last drive and gave us time to score. This was an even match
 
#483      
I’d say we did a hell of a good job tackling (especially in comparison to previous games) and we had a lot of QB pressure as well. We just played a ton of soft coverage which led to easy dink and dunks.

I watched the condensed game and man it felt like we had our foot on their necks the majority of the game. The hardest 180 I’ve ever seen a team pull after that Indiana game.

The amount of forth down conversions they had was insane. Some truly great TE catches and QB play so absolutely hats off (and Lemon was the best player on the field). Our line play was better on 90% of snaps, both sides of the ball.

Frankly I felt pretty good leaving the game, even better after watching the replay. Just an A+++ response by this team.

Yep, that’s what I was going for in short version! Hence “”.
There were moments of atrocious tackling, and moments of stout fundamentals vs the No1 offense.
 
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So, was I the only Illinois fan cheering when USC scored coming out of the 2 min timeout?
The dumbest play of the game was throwing that pass so early. Dumb Dumb Dumb. Really dumb.

People looked at me in my section like I had 3 eyes. I was jumping up and down. Felt like Lou Tepper @ MN, but so what, it was for the best.

Zero percent chance Illinois stops USC at anytime during that drive. Zero.

Illinois needed the ball last and got it. Thank GOD USC saved Bielema and Henry.
Me and my two buddies were rooting exactly as you. But I am not sure how dumb it is. They were down by 5 and needed a touchdown. So it’s hard to give up a touchdown score.

But I do see your point.
 
#485      
I don’t get the negativity in this thread. That was a hugely entertaining college football game, won by the beloved. The offense looked GREAT, and it would have been a comfortable win without the two fumbles. Defense had some good and bad moments, but c’mon, guys, USC has one of the top offenses in the nation, so of course they were going to get some. Defense should look a lot more stout against Purdue, NW, Rutgers. Go Illini.
I think many fans just don’t realize how complex and fast moving a football game is.
Thanks for the post.
 
#486      
Wow.

AI Overview

Only one player, Gale Sayers, is documented as having scored a touchdown via reception, run, pass, and punt return in the same college football season. This incredible feat was achieved by Sayers in 1965 while playing for the Kansas Jayhawks.
This is a reminder that AI needs to be fact checked. I did a Google AI search for the same question. Here is the response I got:

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And the AI answered in 3 different ways. 1) nobody has done it; 2) Hank Beatty is the first Big Ten player to do it since 2003; 3) 5 players have done it including Gayle Sayers in 1963 and Terry Metcalf in 1975.

The Footballguys Forum answered an entirely different question, which TDs rushing, receiving, KR and PR. So that's a bad answer.

The University of Illinois link is accurately described, and I was able to confirm on Sports Reference that Steve Breaston did in fact do this in 2003. The link also says Beatty is the first Illini to do it since at least 1995. This is weird phrasing, and Sports Reference confirms no Illini did this in 1995 - in fact there were no KR or PR touchdowns that season.

So my guess is that Beatty is the only Illini to do this, but I can't confirm it, and neither can AI at this point.

Edit: Also Gale Sayers was in the NFL by 1965, and in that season had a rushing, receiving, and KR TD in the same game which is probably what your AI is referring to. AI is not great yet, and Google AI is one of the worse options. According to Sports Reference, in college Sayers had one career passing TD, in 1964, and did not record a receiving TD that season, so likely Sayers did not accomplish this feat.
 
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#487      
Watching that call overturned on the Oregon not-fumble just makes the call against us so much more egregious.
That was the correct call in the Oregon game. Knee was down. In our game, I am not sure what the refs saw but it looked like to me that KF was down.
 
#489      
Same here. Mackovic is the bar for me. He was on the verge of something really great and sustained when he bolted for Texas. I’ve always wondered if he didn’t regret it after Texas canned him. His 7 to 9 wins a year with an occasional 10 woulda kept him in Champaign for a long long time. I suspect Bret is here for a longer duration and will far surpass both of those guys.
Incredibly foolish move by Mackovic. Still frustrating
 
#493      
This is actually a sign we are in the end times of “being Illinois”.

5 years ago that doesn’t get noticed and the kick hits the left upright, hits the right upright, pops straight up, falls onto the crossbar, bounces back onto our sideline, bursts open and delivers mono virus to the entire team.

I forgot to add that immediately after this 7 of our top 10 commits flip to Wisconsin, Iowa, scUM, Northwestern, Bowling Green, and Alcorn St.
 
#495      
Incredibly foolish move by Mackovic. Still frustrating
What could have been in the 94 season. That team went 6-5 in regular season. But legit could have been a national title contender with better offensive coaching. We were so so overly conservative due to Tepper's defense first mentality that it just bogged down an offense that had some talent. 5 losses by the following margins: 1, 6 (tackled at 2 yard line on last play), 5, 4 & 6. The Michigan loss featured a horrible missed clipping on Michigan's punt return td to seal the win. And the 4 pointer was the infamous collapse against #2 Penn State where we blew a 21-0 lead to lose 35-31 in the last minute.

A good head coach would have gone at worst 9-2 with that team & with some lucky bounces they had the talent (especially on D) to go unbeaten. Until Bret, the program was still reeling from that early 90's sequence where Mack left & we went low budget to hire the D coordinator instead of hiring an established proven head coach. Tepper had a good track record but by the early 90's the game was changing & his read/react style was getting exposed by the pass first offenses that were starting to expand across the country. He was great at the 3 yards and a cloud of dust type of defense but the modern stuff not so much.
 
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This is a reminder that AI needs to be fact checked. I did a Google AI search for the same question. Here is the response I got:

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And the AI answered in 3 different ways. 1) nobody has done it; 2) Hank Beatty is the first Big Ten player to do it since 2003; 3) 5 players have done it including Gayle Sayers in 1963 and Terry Metcalf in 1975.

The Footballguys Forum answered an entirely different question, which TDs rushing, receiving, KR and PR. So that's a bad answer.

The University of Illinois link is accurately described, and I was able to confirm on Sports Reference that Steve Breaston did in fact do this in 2003. The link also says Beatty is the first Illini to do it since at least 1995. This is weird phrasing, and Sports Reference confirms no Illini did this in 1995 - in fact there were no KR or PR touchdowns that season.

So my guess is that Beatty is the only Illini to do this, but I can't confirm it, and neither can AI at this point.

Edit: Also Gale Sayers was in the NFL by 1965, and in that season had a rushing, receiving, and KR TD in the same game which is probably what your AI is referring to. AI is not great yet, and Google AI is one of the worse options. According to Sports Reference, in college Sayers had one career passing TD, in 1964, and did not record a receiving TD that season, so likely Sayers did not accomplish this feat.
Please note the AI discussion is in the Malik Elzy thread. :ROFLMAO: Paging Dan (and I am the biggest offender there).
 
#500      
This is a reminder that AI needs to be fact checked. I did a Google AI search for the same question. Here is the response I got:

View attachment 43983

And the AI answered in 3 different ways. 1) nobody has done it; 2) Hank Beatty is the first Big Ten player to do it since 2003; 3) 5 players have done it including Gayle Sayers in 1963 and Terry Metcalf in 1975.

The Footballguys Forum answered an entirely different question, which TDs rushing, receiving, KR and PR. So that's a bad answer.

The University of Illinois link is accurately described, and I was able to confirm on Sports Reference that Steve Breaston did in fact do this in 2003. The link also says Beatty is the first Illini to do it since at least 1995. This is weird phrasing, and Sports Reference confirms no Illini did this in 1995 - in fact there were no KR or PR touchdowns that season.

So my guess is that Beatty is the only Illini to do this, but I can't confirm it, and neither can AI at this point.

Edit: Also Gale Sayers was in the NFL by 1965, and in that season had a rushing, receiving, and KR TD in the same game which is probably what your AI is referring to. AI is not great yet, and Google AI is one of the worse options. According to Sports Reference, in college Sayers had one career passing TD, in 1964, and did not record a receiving TD that season, so likely Sayers did not accomplish this feat.
Thanks. Im thinking this took a bit for the athletic department to sort out. If pre1995 doesn't listen types of TDs that would account for that stat.

That no one can give a person who last did it seems remarkable in these database days.

We can safely say it's a rarity.
 
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