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#277      
We can all agree on this: let’s just go 11-1. 🙂
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#278      
I agree that time will obviously favor Illinois. I’m glad that game happened first in the big ten schedule instead of last. Again though, I think you are missing my point (and again validated it). I’m not saying a 9-3 Indiana gets in OVER a 10-2 Illinois. I’m saying there’s no way a 10-2 Illinois gets in if Indiana goes 9-3. Indiana doesn’t go either.

I suppose a win over Ohio state would change the narrative, and god I hope that happens. But as of right now, I just don’t see a realistic path to the CFP if Indiana goes 10-2 or worse.
You are saying if Indiana goes 9-3 and Illinois goes 10-2. And PSU, OSU and Oregon go 10-2 or better that Illinois is 100% out and BT gets 3 teams? Thats what everyone is disagreeing with you about. A 4th place 10-2 BT team is in especially when 1 loss is to the #1 team.
 
#280      
I agree. Which is why we want Indiana to go 11-1. 10-2 Indiana means Penn St. beats them (likely), Penn St would be ahead of Illinois. Indiana, Ohio St, Penn St, Oregon are your Big Ten teams.
It seems that Illinois most realistic path to the CFP is to be competitive in OSU game and win everything else to go 10-2. Then we need Indiana to beat PSU; makes our loss look more reasonable and hopefully gives PSU a 9-3 regular season record and eliminates them from consideration.
I don’t like our chances at getting into CFP, even with 10-2 final record, if OSU game is a blowout loss. Would suggest we aren’t able to challenge other CFP level teams yet. Of course this all depends on how other teams fare during rest of the season.
 
#285      
Playoff talk. IU happens ‘we $uck’. Beat USC playoff talk.

We have very little chance to get to the playoff. Most likely tOSU, Oregon and possibly IU are in. That leaves no room for us even if we eke out a tight win v tOSU.

Plus I think we lose 3 games this year anyhow.

And I’ll be thrilled with a 9-3 record and a great big time bowl game.
 
#286      
Playoff talk. IU happens ‘we $uck’. Beat USC playoff talk.

We have very little chance to get to the playoff. Most likely tOSU, Oregon and possibly IU are in. That leaves no room for us even if we eke out a tight win v tOSU.

Plus I think we lose 3 games this year anyhow.

And I’ll be thrilled with a 9-3 record and a great big time bowl game.
While I 100 percent agree with you, I think it would be great to see what happens if we somehow went 10-2. While highly improbable, 11-1 would make possibly the weirdest, craziest year in Illinois football history!!!
 
#287      
Assuming a scenario where Indiana, Illinois, and Penn State all finish the season with two losses, determining who would make the playoff among them would depend on several factors as evaluated by the College Football Playoff Selection Committee:

Conference Championship Status: A Big Ten Conference Championship would give any of the three teams a significant boost, potentially guaranteeing a spot as one of the five highest-ranked conference champions. Oregon is currently favored to win the Big Ten.
Head-to-Head Records: If these teams played each other, the outcomes of those games would be crucial tiebreakers. Illinois defeated Indiana earlier this season.
Strength of Schedule: The strength of the opponents each team played, and their records against those opponents, would factor into the committee's decision.
Comparison of Results Against Common Opponents: How each team performed against the same opponents throughout the season would also be considered.

The committee prioritizes conference championships, strength of schedule, head-to-head results, and common opponent comparisons when making their selections. In a scenario where multiple teams from the same conference finish with similar records, the committee's final rankings would ultimately decide which teams qualify for the playoff.

So of September 29, 2025, Illini have 47th rank of strength of schedule and Penn State has 21st ranked.
 
#288      
Playoff talk. IU happens ‘we $uck’. Beat USC playoff talk.

We have very little chance to get to the playoff. Most likely tOSU, Oregon and possibly IU are in. That leaves no room for us even if we eke out a tight win v tOSU.

Plus I think we lose 3 games this year anyhow.

And I’ll be thrilled with a 9-3 record and a great big time bowl game.
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#289      
Conference Championship Status: A Big Ten Conference Championship would give any of the three teams a significant boost, potentially guaranteeing a spot as one of the five highest-ranked conference champions. Oregon is currently favored to win the Big Ten.

“Potentially” nothing. “Significant boost” nothing. CFP automatically takes the 5-highest ranked conference champions and the next 7 highest ranked teams. So unless you’re saying that we could end up in a bizarro world where the Big Ten Champion was somehow ranked lower than the SEC, ACC, Big 12, Pac-12, and [insert Group of Five Conference Champion], we’d be in automatically.
 
#291      
Why would a 9-3 Indiana prevent 10-2 Illinois from getting in?

I'd think a competitive game against OSU and running the table after would go a long way to clearing up the stink of one terrible game in September. If not, we're already SOL regardless of what IU does.

Also there are crazier things that have happened than PSU beating IU but also losing at Iowa or something.
Completely agree here. If the Illini go 10-2, the most likely scenario is a split of the Ohio State and @Washington games. If Illini beat Ohio State and have a tight road loss @Washington, then the Illini resume still looks very good (ditto if Illini lose competitive game at home to Ohio State and then win on road). It also means the Illini win out in November (meaning a win against Maryland -- assuming they are still performing well).

For IU to have three losses, it most likely means that they have lost @Oregon, @PSU, and @Maryland. When you pull out their overall resume then, you would have two quality wins (home vs Illini and @Iowa -- all of which would have been in September). Looking at the overall schedules, I find it hard to believe that a 9-3 IU team gets in over a 10-2 Illini team (even more so if Duke performs strongly in ACC play). I think some people are placing too much weight on one individual game, and the Illini likely get more benefit of doubt because the embarrassment came in mid-September on the road (and you could argue with a banged up squad).

Of course, all of this is hypothetical. I believe the ceiling for the Illini at the moment is 10-2, but virtually everything would have to go right and the youth in the secondary will have to improve greatly as the season progresses. If the team gets to 9+ wins in regular season, then I will consider it a very successful season. 8 wins, and I would still see it as a good season. The injuries in the secondary are tampering my expectations, but Saturday's win vs USC was so important for the season. If the Illini handle business on Saturday, then I will still feel very good about entering Ohio State game at 5-1 (even with the beatdown in Bloomington).
 
#292      
11-1 in
9-3 out
10-2 conditional.

4 B1G teams likely make it. If one of the current top 4 goes 10-2 (OSU/PSU/Oregon/Indiana), they likely get the nod above us, even if we’re also 10-2.

I believe we’d get the nod at 10-2 above any of those 4 if they go 9-3.

Where things get really hairy is if we go 10-2 and so does another B1G team not currently in the top 4. Would we get the nod over a 10-2 Michigan or 10-2 Nebraska for example?

Looking at the schedules, I actually do think we should get in over Nebraska or Michigan. Especially if Duke keeps winning. If Duke can end up with 8 or 9 wins that will make us look much better.
 
#293      
For us to make the playoff, I think the magnitude of that loss requires that we be 10-2 and that no more than 3 other Big Ten teams be 10-2. Even better if there are only three 10-2 teams in the conference, and we are one of them. So we will need at least four of OSU, Penn St., Oregon, Indiana, Michigan, Maryland, and USC to drop to 3 losses. OSU and Oregon aren't losing 3 games (even if Oregon loses to Indiana they likely end up 11-1). Michigan, Maryland, and USC (the dark horse contenders) are likely to get to 3 losses (and we probably don't make it to 10-2 without giving Maryland one of theirs). So that leaves Penn St. and Indiana as the most likely obstacles. Rooting interest wise, it makes the most sense to root for Oregon and OSU winning out their schedules (minus our game against OSU), and then rooting against Indiana and Penn St., as well as the potential dark horse candidates.

Here are the chances for each of those teams to get to 10+ wins, per KFord...

TOSU: 96%
Oregon: 89%
Indiana: 89%
Michigan: 30%
PSU: 24%
Nebraska: 21%
Washington: 12%
Illinois: 12%
USC: 11%
Maryland: 2%
 
#295      
Here are the chances for each of those teams to get to 10+ wins, per KFord...

TOSU: 96%
Oregon: 89%
Indiana: 89%
Michigan: 30%
PSU: 24%
Nebraska: 21%
Washington: 12%
Illinois: 12%
USC: 11%
Maryland: 2%
Maryland may actually be terrible, but they are undefeated and have a decently favorable schedule going forward. I think they ultimately drop at least 3 more but I think their odds of going 10-2 are way more than 2%. They have to have better odds than Washington, who already has one loss and also still has Oregon on the schedule.
 
#296      
Good analysis. Going one step further. Indiana plays PSU. If Indiana wins then PSU likely has 3 losses.

We really need PSU to lose to Indiana and OSU.
I think PSU can lose to Iowa and OSU and beat Indiana. If you look at Indiana schedule, they probably have to lose to Oregon, Maryland, and PSU to get three L.
 
#298      
Random Thoughts:
1- Luke Altmyer is agruably the best QB in Illinois history.


From an efficiency perspective, it's not even close. He leads in almost every meaningful statistical category that is viewing him over his career (at Illinois) work. At worst, he's on the Illinois QB Career Mount Rushmore.


Only 11 Illinois QBs have 700+ passing attempts, which creates a good cut-off of who's eligible for consideration: Scheelhaase, Kittner, Trudeau, Juice, Verduzco, Eason, Lunt, Altmyer, Beutjer, Johnny Johnson, and Jeff George.
 
#299      
I'd rather pull for Indiana than for another really overhyped SEC to get into the CFP...
 
#300      
Assuming a scenario where Indiana, Illinois, and Penn State all finish the season with two losses, determining who would make the playoff among them would depend on several factors as evaluated by the College Football Playoff Selection Committee:

Conference Championship Status: A Big Ten Conference Championship would give any of the three teams a significant boost, potentially guaranteeing a spot as one of the five highest-ranked conference champions. Oregon is currently favored to win the Big Ten.
Head-to-Head Records: If these teams played each other, the outcomes of those games would be crucial tiebreakers. Illinois defeated Indiana earlier this season.
Strength of Schedule: The strength of the opponents each team played, and their records against those opponents, would factor into the committee's decision.
Comparison of Results Against Common Opponents: How each team performed against the same opponents throughout the season would also be considered.

The committee prioritizes conference championships, strength of schedule, head-to-head results, and common opponent comparisons when making their selections. In a scenario where multiple teams from the same conference finish with similar records, the committee's final rankings would ultimately decide which teams qualify for the playoff.

So of September 29, 2025, Illini have 47th rank of strength of schedule and Penn State has 21st ranked.
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