Washington 42, Illinois 25 Postgame

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#129      
NashvILLe05
illini0440 said:
The fact that Bret even entertained the question of him calling the defense(even though he said he has too many responsibilities to do it) should tell you guys a lot
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Your post gives me some hope.

I paid nearly $2K for the OSU game tix, hotel, etc. and 12 hour round trip up from Nashville for the weekend. I’ll gladly do it to support an Illini program that’s giving me its best in return…but it’s not.

As long as Henry is DC, I’m not spending another dime on football tickets or trips to Champaign.

Bret has been great for Illini football, yet he promoted “his guy” to DC…who was a questionable choice at the time and has demonstrated over the last 3 years the inability to develop. Doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome is literally insane. Changes must be made now.
 
#130      
jamie13197
3 of our 4 final game toss ups. Rutgers very similar to us. Maryland 3 losses by a combined 10 points. Northwestern losses, none of them bad. Great young coach. At Wisconsin, never know. I hope we get to 7 or 8 wins. I'll be very happy.
 
#136      
Illiniaaron
DeeAndDWill said:
First off - While individual games can be disappointing and discouraging, I will never (well at least in the next decade plus) be pissed off with an 8-4 or 9-3 season. A 10 win season followed by and 8 or 9 win season? Heaven. Didn't think it was possible. I don't need/demand national championships. All I've ever wanted was "gimme a bowl game 3 out of every 4 years."

I just want that stated upfront when I say the following. That was one of the most horribly coached games I've seen in a long long time. The defense was an abomination. Insane strategy. Poor execution. Bad discipline. UW dropped a 3rd down pass which would have been an easy first down. That was the only "stop" of the game. Henry coached scared. He didn't do anything to try and get pressure. Not once. He was scared of Williams running and he let him sit back and pick us apart. The worst part is the D looked disinterested. They looked like they were going through the motions. Just appalling how bad everything on that side of the ball was from top to bottom.

And look, I get it probably doesn't change anything, but 32 seconds, 3 timeouts at your 34 and you run out the half. You just furiously got back in the game, and you throw up the white flag because you're scared of making a mistake? I'm a judge the process not only the results guy. You can make the worst decision in the world and get lucky; you can make the best decision and fail. Either way, I'm still going to judge the decision first. And not meaningfully trying to at least get in FG range at the end of the half was a HORRIBLE decision.

Finally, the DL is a joke. This was supposed to be one of the strongest units coming in to the year, and they have been bad all year, but today was a new level of incompetence. They were absolutely invisible the entire game.

Finish 3-1 or 4-0 and I'll still be happy with the season. But today was a bad look, not simply because they lost, but because the coaching staff seemed inept and overmatched.
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I don’t think any losses are acceptable in the last four games with the team Illinois brought back this year and the quality of the opponents. NW will be tough but they shouldn’t lose to them at home.
 
#138      
msphdillini
Bret Bielema's current annual salary is $7.7 million, while Ron Zook's (as an example) salary during his last coaching position at Illinois was $1.5 million in 2009.
When you spend 3-5X on the program, you need to expect signifcantly better results.
Getting to a bowl game or 8 win season is not what we need to expect with this kind of spending.
 
#140      
BatteredWifeSchwartz
msphdillini said:
Bret Bielema's current annual salary is $7.7 million, while Ron Zook's (as an example) salary during his last coaching position at Illinois was $1.5 million in 2009.
When you spend 3-5X on the program, you need to expect signifcantly better results.
Getting to a bowl game or 8 win season is not what we need to expect with this kind of spending.
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Apples to Oranges comparison especially considering the landscape of the sport and also general inflation
 
#141      
squeezegame
msphdillini said:
Bret Bielema's current annual salary is $7.7 million, while Ron Zook's (as an example) salary during his last coaching position at Illinois was $1.5 million in 2009.
When you spend 3-5X on the program, you need to expect signifcantly better results.
Getting to a bowl game or 8 win season is not what we need to expect with this kind of spending.
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not disagreeing exactly, but the inflation rate of college football has possibly been 3-5x in that same time period? money flowing into the sport making the pie bigger
 
#142      
illiram
OK so social media 99% agrees that Aaron Henry is finished. Who can we get to replace him?
 
#143      
Lysol623
Indy Illini Fan said:
Oh Bret is PISSED …
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This should have happened over the bye. The defense has been bad for a while now. This season was a golden opportunity to arrive, but we are walking back towards solid program instead of a very good one.
 
#144      
Chuck Nuggets
msphdillini said:
Bret Bielema's current annual salary is $7.7 million, while Ron Zook's (as an example) salary during his last coaching position at Illinois was $1.5 million in 2009.
When you spend 3-5X on the program, you need to expect signifcantly better results.
Getting to a bowl game or 8 win season is not what we need to expect with this kind of spending.
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#147      
Ryllini
I wasn't able to watch much of the 4th as I was doing a cemetery walk with wife. Very fitting as our chances at the playoffs were buried today. A really squandered opportunity today.

I just can't believe that was the product we put out there today. Coming off a bye no less. Granted, totally different game if we get that int, the muffed punt is recovered, and there was another ball on the ground we had hands on, but that defense was complete !!!!. No other way to put it. We win nothing one on one, we cover nothing in the flats(in fact, AHen had the guys backing up from rb's in the flat), and the God bless that secondary. Totally over matched. How can you not blitz anyone and have LB's in coverage and still don't have anyone in the vicinity underneath. Like 10 yards of freedom.

Also, the bit I saw in the 3rd, was our offense just completely unimaginative.

I'm bummed. We still have a chance at 9 and 10 with the bowl. That is still a great season.
 
#150      
TheodoreRex
Fair enough- as he should be. But the buck stops with Bret. He was the one that hired Henry, who had 0 experience as a head DEF coordinator. I'm maybe misguided, but I feel like at Illinois, where we have the $ that we do, we can do a whole heck of a lot better than a dude with no experience. There were many questions about Henry last year- I wanted him replaced- nothing has changed- it's only been confirmed.
 
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