Illinois 81, Texas Tech 77 Postgame

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#401      
Bucktown
skyIdub said:
I’m not too big of a NBA draft watcher so could someone explain to me how Toppin did not go last year?

Was the NIL greater than his draft projection? He had to be on some boards?
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Yes. I think that is the case. I have read that he has a $4M deal. He was likely a borderline first rounder and needed to improve his outside shooting which he hopes he can do with another year.
 
#402      
Illwinsagain
LouDou said:
Anyone who is a competitor, an athlete, and has played basketball, knows that "intentional foul" situations are oddly strange. You are trying to do something you spend most of defensive playing time trying not to do. And most true competitors with integrity, try to, out of respect for other competitors, commit a foul without exposing them to any type of injury. Boswell tried to commit a foul in a way that the officials had to make a call, without exposing the opposing player to any type of unfortunate injury. To classify that foul as flagrant, even though it was intentional, is beyond absurd.

We had fouls to give. It was a strategic play. And certainly not flagrant.

No matter what the rule says (how it is defined or worded), the official has some discretion about how the play on the court is interpreted. This was a pathetic interpretation of the events.

At least that is my interpretation.
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I guess in the future, he should slap at the ball, even if he is behind. I am no basketball expert, but I would rather take the decision away from the refs.
 
#404      
pweo
Illini2010-11 said:
I have always tried to take the posting approach of "if my wife sees what I have posted, would it get me in trouble". It has worked well so far.
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Just like watching words at work is the mortgage filter. This one is the marriage (divorce?) filter
 
#405      
mysterio2525
Bigtex said:
Boswell was great but the "team" defense and communication was why this switch worked. Obviously Boswell gets the most credit but you have to give Crocker some credit.
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it's funny because they did the old arcade video game strategy... don't chase him... just go to where he will be.

when the double came, it came at his point of lift off and that disrupted his timing enough that he had to stop or kick out.
 
#406      
BrownTown
I've saw a lot of discourse from the TT side implying it's a different game if they were healthy...

Hard not to engage and get embroiled into a "what if" battle but it's surprising to me that Tomi isn't getting more National attention for being one of the top...let's say 10 Centers nationally.

I never thought I would have said this about Tomi, even with high hopes for him after his signing...but he might be more important than Kofi in the current stylings of basketball. He just doesn't get THAT kind of attention because he isn't a 15 post touches player.

If both teams are fully healthy...Illinois might win this game by 10. And I think TT is a darn good top 15 type team.
 
#409      
kyillinifan
Great win. Glad we didn't foul Toppin in the 2nd half. Rather let him get his two and not a 3pt play. He was unstoppable for 12min. I can see Pu doing the same with TKR. Tomi. Lee Petra coming back. Very easy to go 10 deep without losing a step. Ala will be another test with a different type team than TxTech. Threepeet Tx Tech W. Colgate W. Md W.
 
#410      
Weatherspoon1
Illini2010-11 said:
I have always tried to take the posting approach of "if my wife sees what I have posted, would it get me in trouble". It has worked well so far.
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Lol that’s actually great advice. In my case I showed my wife the to-do at lunch today. She said “She’s really cute.” then smacked me on the back of my head before asking me what I wanted to eat. We go back to 3rd grade and my friends call her my trophy wife so I think we’re ok here. 😃
 
#411      
Curbelo Fanboy
FleetFeetIllini said:
Yea while Toppin crushed us it was great to see different approaches on him. He did have 6 turnovers because of the stunts and double teams so he could have scored even more if we were just going one one one all night.
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I about fell out of my chair on that possession when Boswell swatted the ball out of his hands when he came over on a double team. Maybe we will break out a zone defense some this year as well. Was refreshing to see something besides just straight man to man when a guy is torching us. At least change it up.
 
#417      
MC06
LouDou said:
Anyone who is a competitor, an athlete, and has played basketball, knows that "intentional foul" situations are oddly strange. You are trying to do something you spend most of defensive playing time trying not to do. And most true competitors with integrity, try to, out of respect for other competitors, commit a foul without exposing them to any type of injury. Boswell tried to commit a foul in a way that the officials had to make a call, without exposing the opposing player to any type of unfortunate injury. To classify that foul as flagrant, even though it was intentional, is beyond absurd.

We had fouls to give. It was a strategic play. And certainly not flagrant.

No matter what the rule says (how it is defined or worded), the official has some discretion about how the play on the court is interpreted. This was a pathetic interpretation of the events.

At least that is my interpretation.
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I agree it was a bad call. But, it’s also a learning opportunity for Kylan and the rest of the team that if you don’t make a play for the ball, you open the door for the refs to make a bad call.

In the end, it may be a good thing that it happened in a game we ended up winning anyway. And hopefully the players learn and don’t give the refs a chance to make that call in a more important game later in the season.
 
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Todd99
Illwinsagain said:
I guess in the future, he should slap at the ball, even if he is behind. I am no basketball expert, but I would rather take the decision away from the refs.
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Eventually it will be like the intentional walk in baseball. Just have to tell the ref you want to foul the guy. 🙄
 
#421      
illini0440
Jon Stewart Mind Blown GIF
 
#422      
DeeIL89
Is Big Z ok? Seeing rumors that he tweaked a hamstring in the game late and that's why he wasn't back on the floor for those final 4 minutes or so of the game.
 
#425      
Piotyr
It's just a few games, but the things I'm noticing differently defensively this year:

- Overall, a focus on limiting attempts at the rim. They've been successful on this for everyone not named JT Topping.
- Focus on defending without fouling. 3 games in, they're averaging just 11 fouls committed per game, and that was with one intentional last night.
- Adjusted on Toppin to double and front more, pressuring him into giving the ball up rather than just letting him get what he wanted. What had started to remind me of Clingan two years ago with UConn going on a 30-0 run was actually stopped and reversed a bit, leading to 6 turnovers from Toppin.
- This has resulted in allowing more kickout 3's, which so far they haven't been hurt on too much (FGCU made a flurry of them after being down 50 late in the second half)
 
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