No we haven't decided to scapegoat Miller. That's B.S. The OL was not perfect, but not all the "line issues" are on the OL. The OL -- and OL coach -- are not responsible for sacks and pressures caused by the TEs (especially) and RBs missing blocks. That was an issue on too many occasions this year. Also, the QB, as good as he was, does have a tendency to hold onto the football too long sometimes. A few of the pressures and sacks were Altmeyer's fault.
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I agree that there has been a disconnect at times between OC Lunney and OL Coach Miller. But I disagree that it is Miller who is underperforming.
Lunney inexplicably strays from the gameplan on an alarmingly regular -- albeit, frustratingly random -- rate. Case in point, Illinois comes out in the second half against Northwestern and is literally ramming the ball right down the Wildcats throats on the ground. Suddenly--and without reason--Lunney stops calling run plays and starts throwing. Drive stalls just like that. That's on Lunney for not recognizing what's working!
Lunney also likes to run plays without setting them up--like running a double reverse pitch back to the QB pass that fooled nobody on the defense, because he never ran anything to set it up.
Bottom line: Lunney is skittish about the running game. He does not trust it. His instincts are to revert to the pass as fast and often as possible. This is not to say his passing scheme isn't dynamic and important to Illinois' success. But it is to say that he does not appear to follow established game plans or read the flow well on a consistent basis, especially when the gameplan or the flow of the game call for running the damn ball. He's skittish. And that's NOT on the OL coach.
Tepper?
Edit: Ah, one of Tepper's assistants. That makes more sense. Tepper is essentially my Sunday School teacher, don't ruin that for me.
That's not on the OL coach. That's NIL. Get used to it. It's the Wild West in CF right now. If a kid doesn't see significant playing time in two years, he's out--either by his choice or the coaches'. The name of the game in big time CF is NOW! Immediate results are demanded.
Historically, no position group in football has been more dependent upon developing talent over time than the offensive line. It was common at blue blood schools stacked with talent for offensive lineman to wait their turn until their fourth or fifth year to become starters. Coaches had time to develop these kids--both in terms of bulking them up and improving their skills. Those days are gone. And it's the offensive line that is hardest hit. You try to recruit kids out of high school, but they leave if they have to sit too long or if they show promise, someone else comes in and poaches them. So, you try to find a blend, recruit a few high school studs in hopes they can get ready to see the field in half the time (2yrs) and poach JUCO / mid-major / FCS kids that have been developed at lower levels to plug and play.
Welcome to the reality of where NIL hits the LOS.
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
BTW - if you're really curious about the quality of Coach Miller's production, why don't you consider how many OL players have earned All-Conference honors since Bielema and Miller arrived on campus, and how many of Illini O-lineman are getting their shot in the pros. Upon closer review, I think you'll that the quick-spin cycle of development is still producing quality output and getting the most out of the talent on the roster.
Illini in Italy
- Illini HQ, Florida Panhandle
The list is long and distibguished in I've gotta say, Warde Manuel has in impressive rap sheet : Michigan's long list of scandals under Manuel
At what point do UM Alums care enough about the integrity of their institution?
As said earlier, we are fortunate to have such high integrity leadership in our Athletic Dept. In Whitman We Trust
Maybe you missed this part from the WSJ article:
Meanwhile, a chaotic scene was already unfolding. After leaving Michigan’s football facility, Moore returned home and grabbed a knife, the university was told. And at 4:10 p.m., police were called to investigate an alleged assault in Pittsfield Township, just south of the university’s campus in Ann Arbor, Mich.
Emergency dispatchers told police to head to an address on Ann Arbor-Saline Road, according to dispatch audio reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. The address matches one belonging to a female member of the Michigan football staff who worked closely with Moore, according to public records.
A woman at the address said that a man had entered her home and attacked her, according to the dispatch audio. The man also threatened to harm himself, according to the audio call. “He did put a knife to his throat,” a dispatcher said. The dispatcher added that the man “ran out.”
Just before 5 p.m., a dispatcher said that “S1,” referring to the man who left the Ann Arbor-Saline Road address, was at an unknown parking lot. “We are attempting to have wife contact him to try to come home,” a dispatcher says.
Police in nearby Saline assisted in detaining Moore, who was then turned over to Pittsfield Township authorities, according to a Saline official. By 8:30 p.m., Moore was booked into the Washtenaw County Jail in Ann Arbor, where he spent Wednesday and Thursday nights.
. . . allegedly
chiefini
- Rockford, Illinois
No, I don’t think so. I know he hired Moeller, but didn’t Cecil hire Lou?
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MoCoMdIllini
- Montgomery County, Maryland
I really liked Whittingham. Watching his teams in the Rose Bowl reminded me of two B1G teams playing.
RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
Apparently it was a butter knife. No joke.OK now I see more of the details. Yikes, indeed
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
Sherrone had better get used to something a little closer to Toll Booth Operator or McDonald's cashier.
He did. First he hired Gene Bartow but Bartow left for UCLA after one year. I don't know how contracts worked back in 1975 but I don't think Bartow owed Illinois any damages for breaking his Contract. Lou was a better coach than Bartow but Bartow could really recruit. In his first year at Illinois he recruited Audie Mathews out of Bloom. Audie was a top 20 recruit out of high school. Had a nice career at Illinois but wasn't the all-American some of us were hoping for. Bartow only lasted two years at UCLA. I don't think he could handle the pressure coaching at UCLA. He ended up at ..UAB. Strange.
Noblesville Illini
- Nappanee, IN
Please help interpret this. It’s Friday and my brain stopped working.
Heading back across the country?
The rumor mill is cooking as the name I have been hearing for Michigan is John Gruden. Not sure if Michigan wants a coach with some baggage.
Big Jack
- Decatur
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
FWIW, summary of SM's arraignment below via MGoBlog. And, yes, the photo below is real, via the Detroit Free Press. His appearance at the arraignment via Zoom. Insane.
mgoblog.com
Surprised nobody has posted a summary yet (unless it's burried in another thread?)
The prosecution alleged:
-SM had an affair with the victim for multiple years
-Victim broke off the relationship on Monday
-SM continued to send unwanted texts and phone calls
-Victim goes to the AD
-After the termination, SM goes to her house, grabbed butter knives and kitchen scissors, and threatened to kill himself, saying "you ruined my life" and "my blood is on your hands."
The judge ordered:
-No alcohol, marijuanna or any other controlled substance
-No contact of any kind with the victim
-No firearms
-Ongoing mental health evaluation
-Released with GPS monitor, plus can't leave the state
What's next:
-Jan 22, 2026 for probably cause hearing
Summary of Moore's arraignment today | mgoblog
Surprised nobody has posted a summary yet (unless it's burried in another thread?)The prosecution alleged: -SM had an affair with the victim for multiple years-Victim broke off the relationship on Monday-SM continued to send unwanted texts and phone calls -Victim goes to the AD-After the...
Summary of Moore's arraignment today
Submitted by Blue_Bull_Run on December 12th, 2025 at 2:41 PMSurprised nobody has posted a summary yet (unless it's burried in another thread?)
The prosecution alleged:
-SM had an affair with the victim for multiple years
-Victim broke off the relationship on Monday
-SM continued to send unwanted texts and phone calls
-Victim goes to the AD
-After the termination, SM goes to her house, grabbed butter knives and kitchen scissors, and threatened to kill himself, saying "you ruined my life" and "my blood is on your hands."
The judge ordered:
-No alcohol, marijuanna or any other controlled substance
-No contact of any kind with the victim
-No firearms
-Ongoing mental health evaluation
-Released with GPS monitor, plus can't leave the state
What's next:
-Jan 22, 2026 for probably cause hearing
mhuml32
Gesture of Northern Aggression
Is this for Michigan??? Because, if yes, holy smokes. That would be a wild decision.
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