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For those who cant read the whole thing:
Gonna put it all in one tweet. Click “show more” if you want to read it all.

I’m a former Krush member. Here are two of my shirts, one of them from back when it was “Crush.” The current debate gives no reverence to Krush and it should. This is history you’re all trashing.

Last season, for the final three games, I requested a press row seat in the upper levels instead of in front of Krush. The player/coach insults hurled at the opposing bench were just too much for me. As an Illini fan, I don’t like that this is what opposing teams have come to expect in Champaign. What are we, Maryland?

But I didn’t say anything about my move to anyone (besides replying to people asking me why I wasn’t down there). I have incredible respect for the institution of Orange Krush and the history behind it. So I chalked it up to “I guess this old guy just doesn’t get it anymore” and removed myself from the situation. This season I did return the press row seat.

And as someone who has been directly in front of Krush for nearly every game the last 10 seasons, I can speak to the very specific change that happened. From my time in Krush in the early 1990’s until at least 2019, the way to get into the opposing team’s head was noise. Whether a chant or just an “ohhhhhhh” in unison, Krush brought constant noise.

The shift — and I think it happened right around Covid when there was a lost year and the handoff of traditions was interrupted — was a shift from noise to insults. The target stopped being the five opposing players on the court and started being the players and coaches on the visiting bench. My press seat is typically on that end, so perhaps this opinion is shaded by being seated directly between the insulters and the insultees, but the focus clearly shifted to the sideline.

And from my observation, in 2026, the bulk of Krush seems to get… quiet at times so that the insults can be heard? That begins this cycle of making noise for made baskets and big defensive stands but then a hush so that the insults can rain down. Perhaps there’s a belief among current membership that this is always how Krush has always operated? Not sure. But as a former member and as someone who has attended hundreds of games down there, no, the “stay hushed so the insults can land” is something entirely specific to the last 3-4 seasons.

Let’s not get this confused, however. Attend one game during break and you’ll see that Krush still sets the tone for noise. It is night and day louder the moment they return. The bulk of Krush is there, standing in line outside in the cold, ready to make noise. All of the “they’re on their phones!” and “they don’t even care anymore!” of the last few days? Absolutely not true.

I’m at nearly every road game as well and I can tell you that yes, a lot of the student sections around the Big Ten are louder now. I agree that the noise levels down by the court aren’t the same as they were 20 years ago. In my opinion, the focus shift from the court to the sideline is the culprit here. But I’m also attending a “Sammy Hagar sings OU812-era Van Halen songs” concert this year, so… keep in mind that these are the opinions of a 53 year-old.

Either way, Orange Krush is the heartbeat. They do not need to be “removed” and they DO clearly care. My only suggestion for them (if they even care):

The insults don’t affect the game at all. Nor do they land. Just stay loud.

Robert brings up a lot of great points in this. Having been a college student section member (not Orange Krush obviously but at EIU), the loudness of the students can help out quite a bit. If you have student section leaders that know what the hell they're doing, the insults aren't even a factor as they're getting the students focused on cheering on the team. I remember there was an EIU game I went to once where one of the other student section member made a comment (don't recall whether they actually swore or it was just a derogatory comment as this was roughly 20 years ago) towards an opposing player and one of the leaders of the group basically chewed the student out and told them that that wasn't what we were about. I don't recall if that student ever ended up going to another game after that.

My hunch is that whoever the Orange Krush leaders are nowadays aren't as vociferous in making sure the student section is as loud as they can be.
 
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I could almost believe that except we can see other schools still having tremendous atmospheres and engagement from fans.
Outside of schools that are historically known for having tremendous atmospheres, what percentage of other schools are experiencing the same problem we are? Or is this an only SFC issue?
 
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It’s not as complicated as we are making it. Be loud constantly. React to the game. Make our players feel like they’ve got the wind at their back and the opposition hesitate for a split second, either because they can’t hear or because they feel the pressure of the building.

Any student section of any size can do these things, and could start doing them literally today. It’s not a “kids these days” situation.
 
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It’s not as complicated as we are making it. Be loud constantly. React to the game. Make our players feel like they’ve got the wind at their back and the opposition hesitate for a split second, either because they can’t hear or because they feel the pressure of the building.

Any student section of any size can do these things, and could start doing them literally today. It’s not a “kids these days” situation.
If it was a kids these days things every student section would be quiet but we’ve seen plenty of loud ones on the road.
 
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I think something got broken during Covid where we lost all sense of tradition as a fanbase. Stopped doing call and response ILL-INI within the stadium, stopped standing for running of the flags, a lot of people sit right after tipoff, dont stand/sing for Alma Mater, etc. Hell most people don't even clap/cheer for pregame player introductions! People say it was losing the Chief but the falloff didnt happen until much later. I dont know if its that people dont know or dont care but I dont know how to rebuild old traditions without coming off as cheesy.

I dont have as long as history as some here but I have been going to games consistently since 2007 so I think I have a pretty good baseline for at least changes I've seen over the last 20ish years.
What are the current Illini basketball traditions? I guess just having really good teams and a really good history but I don’t know if we have specific traditions besides the krush and the orange blazer
 
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Krush Canopy on 200 level for today's game. Has this been happening this year or is this something new?
 
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So, for anyone who was actually at the game, was the crowd finally better this time?
Easy to tell on tv it was. You could see that it was better without even listening.
 
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