UCLA 95, Illinois 94 OT Postgame

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#776      
Boswell has not been good defensively this year, in my opinion. That needs to change if we are going to make the run we all believe we can.
Boswell's problem is he can only defend well if he's utilizing his lower center of gravity. It's why he's actually better with taller guards and keeping this off their spots but when quickness is needed, his strength is negated. I think he let anxiety get the best of him in that situation and was not confident in his ability to defend without fouling or even forcing dent to either pass or move laterally.
 
#777      
Ayo vs Michigan was very close to being a buzzer beater
Oh yeah.. good call. For all intents and purposes, that was a game winning buzzer beater. So, it's been 6 years. Not quite as bad. In that time, we've had at least 3 go against us.

I'll still say we're due!

Ps. I hate that we lost that MSU game. Those free throws from Jake were so cold blooded but we just couldn't pay them off with a win.
 
#780      
Lots of appropriate comments about the defense.

But what I found frustrating is why we went away from driving the lane. Keaton was routinely finding a cutter for layups or dunks. With UCLA in so much foul trouble and us in the bonus so early into the half, we needed to put more pressure on them to play defense.

This is how you can offset a bad 3 pt shooting night. We don't value the 2 pt basket enough and it isn't the first time this year.
Great post. I agree completely…there’s something about an alley-oop back door slam dunk that demoralizes players and instills fear. I would’ve run that on repeat until they showed they could’ve stopped it. That’s where I get frustrated with the Offense…to your point around 3 point obsession.
 
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Lots of appropriate comments about the defense.

But what I found frustrating is why we went away from driving the lane. Keaton was routinely finding a cutter for layups or dunks. With UCLA in so much foul trouble and us in the bonus so early into the half, we needed to put more pressure on them to play defense.

This is how you can offset a bad 3 pt shooting night. We don't value the 2 pt basket enough and it isn't the first time this year.

Me the entire game …

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#782      
Need more from Andrej. I know he’s beloved by many and he gets special treatment because of his last name but his highs, lows, and overall toughness are really difficult to weather. I’m not convinced he deserves a 2nd year at the same salary. Prove me wrong AS!
 
#783      
NO ONE has beaten us in regulation since December 13th, and that was a last second shot to a top 10 team. Even though free throws have been missed, and defense could be better, we are still VERY hard to beat!! Get a couple of things corrected, and I love the spot that we are in right now. We just cannot have a letdown in the tourney. Our team is mentally tough, which is what matters at tourney time.....
 
#784      
The timeout thing is really weird to me. He, literally, never calls one unless it is absolutely dire. We have had a bunch of games this year where we haven’t used our use it or lose it timeout in the first half.
Exactly right- he called the timeout AFTER the momentum completely shifted to UCLA.. He needed to call a timeout early in the shift with the hope of changing it.. 3-4 layups/easy shots in- Underwood needed to call a timeout-rip them for their effort- and hopefully curb the poor effort- or shoot- let Kylan or another leader light into the team in the moment.

Cronin called 2 timeouts almost back to back with the intent of changing the momentum- though his first timeout needed to come a little sooner as well.
 
#786      
I think the visceral reaction to the UCLA loss is for a few reasons:
1) Most of our losses before this make sense; Uconn and Bama we were still figuring things out, Nebraska was a close loss on the buzzer that happened to be against a very good team- MSU- tough environment, very good team, no Kylan. Wisconsin- tough to stomach- but we played 6 guys and still should've won- Wisconsin is a solid team.

UCLA- there's no excuses anymore- not still "figuring things out", the team is fully healthy, we were and are the clearly more talented and better team, win and you likely lock down a 2 seed and give yourself a chance at a 1 seed, UCLA is a fine team- but was reeling from some awful losses, and to make matters worse- we come out and blow the doors off UCLA to go up 33-10. We then make history with the biggest choke/collapse in NCAA history for an AP top 10 team- so a true kick in the stomach result. Oh- and we lost on a last second layup- in which our defensive plan was questionable at best- and where the player didn't get stopped at all and had a nearly uncontested layup.

It's not that I don't think we are capable of beating Michigan- I realize full well that the eye test and analytics say we can beat them. BUT- we lost the UCLA game because of a lack of effort and intensity- best example would be Andrej bending over casually to get the lose ball under the basket, while 2 UCLA players go after it like their lives depend on it and one of them dives for the ball and saves it. We also gave up an offensive rebound on a flipping free throw.. in which the UCLA player then easily put it back for a layup- A FREE THROW offensive rebound and layup- what???????? Problem is- you can count a plethora of those in the game.

Our biggest weakness is our inability to guard quick guards and bigs that can pop- mostly because Tomi, Big Z, and Mirk are very poor perimeter defenders/defending in space. I'm deeply concerned about the tournament because you face... very good guards and often bigs that can pop- and guess what- some of the best coaches in the country who will literally attack Tomi, Z, and Mirk EVERY PLAY. And we have a coach (who does a ton of things well) but has shown to be a mediocre in game coach- in which I have very little confidence we will be able to adapt during the game. See Loyola, Uconn and more recent examples of MSU, Wisconsin, and UCLA...

I'm probably unfairly skeptical of this teams ability to beat Michigan because we are at the end of the season and are talking about the lack of urgency and effort in a MUST WIN GAME against an inferior opponent. That is deeply concerning- especially since we are an old team that should have the leadership to make sure we play with urgency.
All of this 💯💯💯
 
#787      
Rebounding had nothing to do with this loss. We lost because we can't defend anyone with our drop coverage in pick and roll. In the last 10 minutes of the first half and first 5 minutes UCLA made 19 of 22 shots. Most of which were off some kind of pick and roll. There wasn't may rebounds.
 
#789      
Finally read this compleat thread. I think the the thing that bothers me most about this game and the other most recent losses is that the team has been on the cusp of greatness and, then, pees down their legs. These games have been winnable. Should have been won. You can make all the excuses you want about why they were lost. The fact is, great teams find a way to win these games. They just aren't there yet.
 
#790      
Finally read this compleat thread. I think the the thing that bothers me most about this game and the other most recent losses is that the team has been on the cusp of greatness and, then, pees down their legs. These games have been winnable. Should have been won. You can make all the excuses you want about why they were lost. The fact is, great teams find a way to win these games. They just aren't there yet.

Illinois was 8-2 in games decided by 10 points or less prior to the 3 OT losses (2 of which were shorthanded without Boswell or both Boswell & Andrej, 1 of the 2 prior losses with no Tomi)... still 8-5 after that madness
 
#791      
"Enough is enough", we go home in 2 weeks. Right coach. Remembering you have BigZ sitting next to you for most of 2nd half, Important Coach! Seeing in game, that feeding the ball down low for dunks and easy lay ups, Bruins could not stop it. But heck lets go 3 of 30 from 3 point line. Smh. Going into Zone and Bruins missing shots, no wait I'm the coach, lets go back to man. Give me a break, coach better Brad!
 
#792      
Illinois was 8-2 in games decided by 10 points or less prior to the 3 OT losses (2 of which were shorthanded without Boswell or both Boswell & Andrej, 1 of the 2 prior losses with no Tomi)... still 8-5 after that madness
You're not concerned at all that Illinois has lost three straight close games (all in OT)? I think it's a sign of things to come in the NCAAT with two freshmen as your leaders. Tomi just doesn't have leadership qualities, and it seems like Bam and Andrej are fine with secondary roles.
 
#795      
The one remarkable thing about the last play is all 5 guys on the court played horrible defense - literally all 5 had a hand in it - that is rare

It was clear they were all worried about fouling so essentially just let him go, while you don't want to foul in that situation, you have to try to deny Dent the ball and make him come back towards the in-bounder to get the ball which would have essentially taken away the ability to get all the way to the rim
- Kylan didn't try to deny Dent the ball at all
- Keaton did try to turn him once he was switched onto him
- Andre didn't hedge the screen to deny him the sideline or turn him towards the sideline if he wasn't going to hedge the screen
- Ben did help once Dent got past Andre
- Big Z came out too early and when he did get past him didn't reach back to block the shot for some reason
OK. Kylan did not deny. My question is: Did the coaching staff say Kylan you need to deny the ball? If they told him to deny, and he did not then there is a major issue in communications. I am assuming he was not told to deny. From a vast amount of coaching experience at far lower levels I have learned that in the heat of the battle, the coach in the huddle must be very specific and on point with what he expects the player(s) to do in this situation. And I believe Coach Underwood knows this a lot better than I do.
 
#797      
Couldn’t agree more … Should be a second weekend team at minimum … They’ve proven what they are at this point …

Anything less than that is absolute FAILURE … And it’s flat out UNACCEPTABLE …
Brad's Achilles heel. I'm already looking for the possible 7 seeds that dump us in the round of 32 unfortunately.
 
#798      
You're not concerned at all that Illinois has lost three straight close games (all in OT)? I think it's a sign of things to come in the NCAAT with two freshmen as your leaders. Tomi just doesn't have leadership qualities, and it seems like Bam and Andrej are fine with secondary roles.

I'm a little concerned, just not "we're gonna lose by 20" concerned

I think the team dynamic seems pretty good, not worried about that... major worry for me is figuring out how to improve the navigating screens by our guards, other than that I mean I literally have zero worries about like rebounding or our offense as a whole
 
#800      
You're not concerned at all that Illinois has lost three straight close games (all in OT)? I think it's a sign of things to come in the NCAAT with two freshmen as your leaders. Tomi just doesn't have leadership qualities, and it seems like Bam and Andrej are fine with secondary roles.

I'm concerned we lost - and another small quick guard going nuts. And UCLA does feel different than MSU and Wisconsin, at least to me.

But the overtime part has very little to do with it IMO. I think it's a far more damning sign when you lose handily in games than when it's close - but obviously, just winning period, would be preferred over the three options there.

My question is this. If you're scouting an Illini opponent come March - if Team A had 4 losses and Team B had 4 losses, would you feel better or worse if Team A's losses were all at the buzzer against quality opponents than you would if Team B losses were to the same 4 teams but they were beaten handily in all of them?

Last year felt like we got handled in so many games and I struggled to grasp the idea of us making a big run in March. The year prior, while PSU and Purdue and MSU, and Marquette were frustratingly close losses, mostly because I thought we were just better, I was confident that by and large, we were better and could hang with anyone.
 
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