Coaching Carousel (Basketball)

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Heisenbobble
illini0440 said:
hmmm. Let me think about it.
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#702      
Illiniguy13
As long as the Reinsdorfs are running things, coaching the Bulls could be a dream job if you’re in it for the wrong reasons 🤣 You get incredible job security from an overly loyal owner, the perks of a major market, and the prestige of a historic franchise, all while management seems content with 38 wins. And if you happen to land a couple of high draft picks and turn them into real success, you’re instantly a legend
 
#704      
oskeewowwowboomtime
OrangeBlue98 said:
The more important question is how respected is the incoming AD? Bubba is on his way out, so the new guy is more important.
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But since Bubba is still under contract as UNC's A.D. until July of 2026, if he does make the hire, rumor has it that he has already cut his list down to just two available candidates to interview for the UNC basketball head coach position:
This is what made Phil Jackson a great head coach #nba #nbabasketball #losangeleslakers #philjackson
 
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bavanga3
ChiefGritty said:
I believe Kyrie Irving was the first one-and-done K ever had and as of Scheyer's hiring there had only been a couple. Even with recruiting services colossally, laughably overrating Duke's signees every year, they were no longer competing for the tippy-top caliber of player most of the time in the late aughts early 2010's as the Calipari's of the world reinvented the recruiting game.

As late as 2013 that was a program solely built around four-year guys. Quinn Cook, Seth Curry, Rasheed Suliamon, Ryan Kelly and Mason Plumlee was their starting five that year, and it was a place where someone like Austin Rivers didn't really fit.

That all changed when Scheyer came back. He changed the philosophy into a team that would be a platform to highlight the Jayson Tatum's and Zion Williamson's.
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Brandon Ingram, Harry Giles, Jayson Tatum, Dion Williamson, Jahlil Okafor, Kyrie, Paulo Banchero, Jalen Johnson, Vernon Carey, RJ Barrett, Cam Reddish, Marvin Bagley, Justice Winslow, Jabari Parker, Austin Rivers.

I'm not saying Scheyer may not have been the lead recruiter on some of those, but Duke and Kentucky were the apex predator for one and done's 15 years ago. And let's not forget, it wasnt until about 15 years ago when one and done became a thing. Kids had to stay in college until a certain age. Coach K didn't have his kind of success for 40 years by not adapting to the times. Duke was constantly 1 or 2 in the recruiting rankings, and yes, maybe recruits were bumped up because of the Duke prestige, but the same can be said about Kentucky. I just dont see what's so transformational about Scheyer other than you never want to be the guy to follow the guy, and other than a championship, he has done a great job. Coach K laid out the red carpet for him.
 
#707      
FreshlySqueezed
Gosh, duh on Maggette and Deng.

But Scheyer returned to the program in 2014, he was the one recruiting most of those guys listed.

This was a big and unexpected deal at the time, Duke becoming a "Calipari-style program", and many observed the irony that it was spearheaded by Scheyer, the living embodiment of the program's prior recruiting focus of "annoying overrated four-year white kids".
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Dude, why do you keep saying the same thing over and over again? Coach K recruited 5 one and dones in the 4 years BEFORE Scheyer joined the staff.
 
#708      
CoachHooleyHoo
Indy Illini Fan said:
Vibe I get is he ain’t leaving unless it’s a HC position that sets him up for immediate success … Like an Elite mid major …
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First of all, thank you for all the updates...very much appreciated. Secondly, I would think with the credit he's getting for the offense, I would think he's a name mid-majors would consider. Might be a year or two away, but you would think he's going to get a shot with a good program.
 
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Oracle21
I’d be shocked if Scheyer left Duke to take any NBA job. The NBA is far more games, coaching is less relevant, job security is awful.

When Hurley turned down the Lakers, that should tell everyone that the NBA is not a step up from a premier college job. A premier college job is far more desireable.
 
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IlliniwekKDR
Fly Illini Fly! said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2036828752810803538
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Goodman could've stopped his tweet after the first five words.

Kenny Smith got so upset after UNC blew their lead last week, that he left the CBS studios for the rest of the weekend and claimed he was sick lol what's he going to do as a coach?

Good Lord, what a silly statement. North Freaking Carolina is going to hire a 61 year old with zero coaching experience
 
#721      
The Dying Illini
IlliniwekKDR said:
Goodman could've stopped his tweet after the first five words.

Kenny Smith got so upset after UNC blew their lead last week, that he left the CBS studios for the rest of the weekend and claimed he was sick lol what's he going to do as a coach?

Good Lord, what a silly statement. North Freaking Carolina is going to hire a 61 year old with zero coaching experience
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Goodman calling anyone clueless is rather comical in itself.
 
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ChiefGritty
Indy Illini Fan said:
Not so fast on this one …

Mack very much trying to set Murray up at Charleston … Think those are pretty equal jobs in all honesty …
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The coach BC just fired having been hired from, you guessed it, Charleston.

One dog that hasn't barked yet in the new college sports is a power conference program just giving up because they can't compete and their fans know it, and with todays media and pricing and merchandising and NIL etc it's just not financially viable to roll out teams that can't win year after year.

BC is probably the first P4 program you think of when you think where that first domino might fall.
 
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the juiceman cometh
ChiefGritty said:
The coach BC just fired having been hired from, you guessed it, Charleston.

One dog that hasn't barked yet in the new college sports is a power conference program just giving up because they can't compete and their fans know it, and with todays media and pricing and merchandising and NIL etc it's just not financially viable to roll out teams that can't win year after year.

BC is probably the first P4 program you think of when you think where that first domino might fall.
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In basketball or as a P4 sports entity altogether?

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I think the thing about BC is it might be the rare P4 school where basketball not only isn't #1, but also isn't #2 (hockey).
 
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OrangeBlue98
ChiefGritty said:
The coach BC just fired having been hired from, you guessed it, Charleston.

One dog that hasn't barked yet in the new college sports is a power conference program just giving up because they can't compete and their fans know it, and with todays media and pricing and merchandising and NIL etc it's just not financially viable to roll out teams that can't win year after year.

BC is probably the first P4 program you think of when you think where that first domino might fall.
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Are you talking about a program like BC just saying “heck with it” and settling for being an ACC bottom dweller, or seeing a program like that moving to a conference like the American? Because I could see either scenario happening.
 
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