Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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I need names, bro. feed me!
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#605      
If we bring back the guys we want from this year, integrate the incoming freshman, and then add someone like Blackwell....
If we retain Stojakovic and bring in Coleman, what we need is a Nick Boyd-type not a Blackwell-type.

Welcome to "We Have Our PG" Season.

There's some real confidence they can get most if not all of the rotation players outside of Wagler/Ben and Kylan back, we will see. Also, The bench will look better than this and they will get someone a lot better than Johnson to start with Coleman.
Btw, no one is talking about this and maybe he wants to move on with his life, but I can discern no principle from the NCAA and legal rulings on this subject other than "NAIA seasons don't count" and if that's true Ben can come back.

Insiders, is he gonna try?
 
#606      
Knox fits our player profile. He would be a solid pickup if he isn't wanting a boatload.
 
#611      
I think everyone is rooting for him….but I agree with DICK, he doesn’t fit in this offense and his best bet is a role as a D and rebound guy off the bench
I think Ty is a solid back up to Andre to cut, rebound and play D. He can play to his strengths and be a solid back up in that role. If his ability to face up, put the ball on the floor and attack or shoot even better!
 
#612      
With Kylan leaving, we will need a defensive stopper.
IMO, TY is that guy and gets you 6 rebounds a game.
If he can add in a few point off rebounds great.
I like Ty and wish him the best but many here feel he is much better than I do if he will starts on next years team with what we have now much less the pieces we are adding. I see him being the 2nd or 3rd guy backing up Andre when Andre sits it Ty stays at all.
 
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Btw, no one is talking about this and maybe he wants to move on with his life, but I can discern no principle from the NCAA and legal rulings on this subject other than "NAIA seasons don't count" and if that's true Ben can come back.

Insiders, is he gonna try?
Yeah I've wondered about this too - I've assumed everyone else must know stuff I don't and that it's a non-starter that he could get another year, but can anyone confirm that we've at least kicked the tires on this issue?

As it stands, I figure it will actually be pretty tough to replace Ben in his current role. I would think Ben, or a player very similar, would also probably make someone like Ty a lot more playable too alongside him on a hypothetical 2nd unit.
 
#616      
Haggerty has been floated many times
Fears is said to be headed to the portal
Christian Anderson was floated last week

Those are the only guys I’d be able to confidently say are “elite” guards, maybe Blackwell but he’s a level below those three and is strictly a 2 imo. Anderson is probably going in the draft and the other two haven’t announced yet.

So I can’t imagine who it’d be, honestly.
Josh Hubbard was All Sec as a freshman and this season and takes very difficult shots and has averaged over 19pts a game for his career. Made 108 3s as a freshman. He may not be someone we are looking at but he is much like Plummer but even much better. He gets fouled, a great FT shooter and has a 2 to 1 assist to TO ratio on a below average team were he us oftrn doubled. . I think he is an elite college basketball player if he enters the portal as are others. Whether we would be interested or not i dont know. I thought Indy or someone had mentioned him before
Thats why i bring him up. Ive watched him a good bit because he is an interesting, athletic, snd exciting player to watch. I think he would be a scary thought for opponents if surrounded by guys like we have on our roster.
 
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Best thing for Ty IMO is come back and earn a role …
Feel like it makes a ton of sense for him to stick around next year regardless of the rest of the team.

If he underperforms or just doesn’t get PT, he’ll have another year of eligibility that he can go elsewhere.
 
#622      
Lol is this the "a knee equals two feet" of NCAA eligibility?

I hadn't seen that anywhere, is there a specific case in which that was established?
I am too lazy to look it up, but earlier in the season. I argued at length that NAIA did not count and Ben could return. Someone cited the cases of JuCo players where two years counted as one. Hard to say NAIA should be any different.

I'd love to be wrong and welcome replies from those who follow this more closely than I have.
 
#624      
Teams won’t guard him again and it will congest the lane. Even to fill Ben’s role teams will have to respect his shot.
There is a world where he has improved his jumpshot and can take threes. We currently have an slasher wing that is great at driving to hoop and isnt a great 3-point shooter in Andre. I would argue that Ty has been a better overall defender and rebounder before injury (though Andre has really stepped up recently). If Ty is a slightly worse shooter but better rebounder and defender than Andre, I can see a role for him off the bench. Big if, but not inconceivable.
 
#625      
Bruce catching (unnecessary) strays
It was a massive reason he’s tenure was a failure after 06. He just couldn’t get top end talent.

Conversely, Underwood has consistently gotten talent to come here.

I will die on the Weber was a good coach hill. But that only gets you so far.
A lot of emotional energy got tied up in the notion that Groce failed to land top recruits, and he certainly had high-profile failures.

But with hindsight you look at the broad history of Illinois Basketball and we've had a very strong sell to talented players in volume for all of modern history where ranking recruits has been a thing, with the massive and glaring exception of the Weber period until he hired Snacks, the classes of 04-08.

It's EXTRAORDINARY how bad our recruiting was during that period, there's nothing else remotely like it, and it came during the period of our greatest success and popularity.

A lot of people would like to redeem Weber as a figure for various reasons, but he was a disaster for this program, and the way in which he failed just makes your brain hurt.
 
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