Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Man, there are some insane posts in this thread.

Illinois fans should be dancing in the streets.

If you’re worried about point guard, they plan to put the ball in the hands of Vaaks.
I'm dancing... but not in the streets. LOL I'm not worried about point guard. I'm looking forward to Illinois putting the ball in the hands of Vaaks. I just happen to think the Illini could use ANOTHER guard in addition to Vaaks and Coleman. Perhaps a guard with some experience? One who's better than Brandon Lee. And one who's better (at least initially) than Morillo at Guard. Plus, I think the Illini will need minutes from Morillo at SF and PF. (No great candidates to play those minutes at those positions if Morillo is forced to start at Guard for an injured Vaaks or Coleman.)
 
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I can't with some that think this team right now as it stands is blahhh.

I think we are already better than last years team and im not really sure its close.

Vaaks can flat out stroke it...we didnt have that this year. Yes, Keaton was very good, but not the pure shot Vaaks is from anywhere on the court.

Coleman will be better than Bam by end of the year.

AS/Z/T/Mirk all one more year in the program, typically players improve number 15-20% each year and have chemistry

Throw in Jake Davis bangin baseline 3s to spread the floor.

Morillo is pure gravy and he looks really really skilled for a true freshman.

I watched a lot of video of Wagler last year and thought he could be a 10 ppg type freshman. Coleman and Morillo both look better on film than wagler did, IMO. Chew on that a bit.

Can only feed so many mouths and we have enough to be excited about! Enjoy it!
Wagler shot 39.7% from three this year. Vaaks? 35% Wagler was the better shooter, period. I don't care about the "eye test." I care about results. That said, I'm excited Vaaks is coming next year and hope he gets even better and sees more wide open threes, which are both reasonable assumptions to make.
 
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I say we should have a new policy that we are open to any transfer that fits our needs, unless they are a Badger. The heck with those guys.
 

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FYI - here is the link to the Jordan Brand Classic game that Quentin Coleman is going to be playing in.

Incoming 5-star freshman guard Jason Crowe Jr for Missouri is going to be a PROBLEM for opponents next season! :oops:
 
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Yeah, I'm not upset with anyone about losing out on Blackwell, especially if that's the reason (not the right fit anyway). But if we thought we wanted/needed him, I'm surprised there isn't/won't be someone else who could make us better- even a defensive piece or extra insurance in case of injury/underperformance.

Yes, we have a stacked roster and #TheRetention is something to celebrate. I don't care about pre-season media rankings, though pre-season odds are interesting and they have us around #3-7 and a definite step down from UM and Duke. Those are of course wild predictions, but it isn't crazy to wonder if a little extra could end up being the difference that gets us a natty.
This x10000!! If the injury bug hits the team, depth will be a major concern.

If Blackwell truly backed away and the money is still there, try to persuade someone like Paul McNeil to join. He’d be a great fit.
 
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No one is blaming the agent. It's the posters who automatically assumed Illinois wouldn't pony up for Blackwell that are the issue.
We can't help those posters. I've given up trying to make people understand how good we're going to be and how difficult it had to have been for Brad to pull this off-season off. People have the ask themselves what Drej, Mirk and the twins would have been worth it they all hit the portal? Drej and Mirk would have been 5 stars for sure....guessing Tomi would have been as well.

To pull Vaaks out of there and secure plug n play freshmen that you can mold for when our seniors leave after next year....you keep that retention pipeline flowing.

You can't just live out of the portal. You have to be able to develope guys, retain them and use the portal as an accent, which is pretty much what we did this year.
 
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I seem to remember the Illini' offensive # 's this past year being described as " historic " on Kenpom.............that's without a contribution from Mr. Blackwell , wasn't it???????..............

we had a top 150 recruit transition to a probable top 7-8 lottery pick coming up in a couple weeks.........maybe some of our freshmen coming in can do the same.....maybe ??.......................maybe the newest commit's dad said it best about the Illini program being best at player development in the country........................maybe some of our retention 5 players actrually improve ......maybe ????...

MAYBE some posters need to think more before posting some of the fodder showing up here now.......

I believe in this program like never before as to making the right decisions as to what's best for us to succeed.....I wish more felt that way , but it's your right to post an opinion........MAYBE give most thought before you post......JMHO......
 
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Blackwell isn’t coming here to sit behind anybody — he’d be competing with guys who earned their roles, not blocked by them.

And Tyler has shown they’ll play multiple guards together if they can score and defend. If you can produce, you’re on the floor.
 
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We’re still a natty favorite without Blackwell..

Maybe not #1 preseason but I don’t know if there’s a group with such retention that is for sure better. We’re going to have a season where the final four & a national championship will be the bar for success.

we rode with these guys last year, Zen’s dad is right.. we are the premier development program. Morillo & Coleman are fantastic additions as freshmen & Vaaks will be a first round pick….

Nothing to be upset about- especially if the kid isn’t focused on winning. Everyone that’s coming back is sacrificing to win. Andrej could go anywhere he wants.. he could
Be averaging 25ppg at Cal right now but instead he’s locked in on bringing a national title to Champaign.
 
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Doomers, please do yourself a favor and watch this Vaaks vid. He’s even better than I thought. Incredible athlete. Illinois is not going to miss a beat next season. They are better.

He's an exciting addition. Excellent shooter, adept passer, and very good run/jump athlete.

The only question is can we get him to play acceptable defense.
 
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I seem to remember the Illini' offensive # 's this past year being described as " historic " on Kenpom.............that's without a contribution from Mr. Blackwell , wasn't it???????..............

we had a top 150 recruit transition to a probable top 7-8 lottery pick coming up in a couple weeks.........maybe some of our freshmen coming in can do the same.....maybe ??.......................maybe the newest commit's dad said it best about the Illini program being best at player development in the country........................maybe some of our retention 5 players actrually improve ......maybe ????...

MAYBE some posters newed to think more before posting some of the fodder showing up here now.......

I believe in this program like never before as to making the right decisions as to what's best for us to succeed.....I wish more felt that way , but it's your right to post an opinion........MAYBE give most thought before you post......JMHO......
All of THIS ^^^^^
 
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if Blackwell is concerned about too many mouths to feed and not being successful, then he's not, as BU says, "playing for the name on the front of the jersey". like when he saw Keaton score 2 points in high school and came away still ecstatic about him because he got his teammates involved and didn't care that he only got 2 points.
 
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So much to like about Alex Wilkins! But he might be out of our price range. Kentucky is after him big time. And they've missed on several other transfers already. I'd expect UK to spend whatever it takes to sign Wilkins. And Wilkins would start for Illinois with Vaaks. Some people seem to think that Coleman might be upset if he's NOT starting. And how's Wilkins' defense? Can he stay with shorter, quicker point guards? In any case, I also like Alex Wilkins a LOT!
I don't think you're going to find many guards that are quicker that Wilkins even if they are smaller.

Would love to see him work with Fletch. Has all the tools to be a plus perimeter defender.
 
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Speaking of usage %, has Blackwell’s agent not shown him the gif game here? I don’t think any other school is near the same level.

Weird Al Tin Foil Hat GIF
 
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Where is he thinking of going? The other schools he seems to be looking at have very good players and many mouths to feed.
Look at the retention. Stojakovic is a scorers. Who else would he be afraid he is going to lose shots too. Davis, Big Z, Tomi? Come on. The freshman? I think Blackwell has a better opinion of himself than that.

Good coaches, and I believe we have them, when someone tells a recruit he would have a smaller role at a certain school, the certain school should stroke his ego. "I guess we just know you are a better player than they think you are. You are going to be the man here."

If Blackwell came here I would lay good money he would lead this team in scoring. And it would be on a top national title contender.
You conveniently forgot to mention Vaaks and Mirk who will likely be our highest usage players. I agree the minutes would be there for Blackwell, though maybe not the shot volume he + his agent are looking for.
 
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Blackwell left Wisconsin stating he wanted to compete for a championship. Well, Blackwell’s camp, you have to play with really high-usage, good players to do that. If that’s not the goal, stay at Wisconsin, Gard can make a guard pop.
The goal is $$ AND usage. He and his camp are hunting both; not necessarily winning though.
 
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Lee can absolutely contribute this year. I think he’s slept on. Keaton overshadowed him this year. Another year in the system, it’s not unreasonable to think he can take a sophmore leap.
Keaton did not overshadow Lee; he couldn't even get on the court.

The guys that got overshadowed by Keaton were Mirkovic and Stojakovic -- both of whom will be focal points of next year's team.
 
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