Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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I agree Blackwell isn’t make or break. I think maybe the issue people are having is it sounds like we’re wrapping up additions and not picking up a replacement piece for the blackwell interest. If we knowingly were pivoting, maybe the loss wouldn’t hurt as much?
I still think there is something up our sleeves. I wouldn't bet that we are done yet. Even if we are, it's one hell of a class coming in.
 
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Louisville would seem like a strange choice except for the money. Why would you want to go to a team that is almost totally new, has no chemistry with a coach who has proven nothing over Illinois, which is opposite in every way?
If there was a dislike button, I should definite get one for thus, but we did just see Michigan do it successfully.
 
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And that for me and our staff this afternoon … 🚩

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Part of what made us great last year was that there were never jealousy issues in the locker room or any I gotta get mine mentalities. It's a fine line that Brad has to watch before he opens the door to they locker room.

A lot of people are obsessed with numbers, but if there's no fit....it just doesn't work. After watching what happened with Matthew Mayer, before and after.....I'm sure Brad knows personalities and what buttons to push. He and TJ should have NEVER have been on the same roster. Matt wanted his shots and took them, good or bad. The following year, TJ leads us to an Elite 8.
 
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Quite a few of you need to lay off alcohol or meds.. Last summer I didn't know who Lee and Wagler were.. Ben, returning I was not happy, just a sub.. Jake I thought would contribute. Andre I was excited, but didn't think he was a game changer,. Just high volume shooter and slasher. BigZ was a brick laying 3 point shooting mess at Arkansas, that didn'tsee court and injured.
Who ever thought Mirk would be 6.9ft bringing ball up constantly. Here we are with 5 really good freshman and not 1 under 6.4ft.. All can be great shooters. Mirk will explode when fletcher finishes this summer!

Vaacks highlights show him passing all over court and hitting from 30ft..
I am hoping Tomi and Adre show up for an entire season vs. simply March.
I will say this and remember it. Mirk will have a better sophomore season than Yaxel had for Michigan. We are loaded currently and will be awesome on the court and in lockeroom. I wouldn't mind being selfish for wanting a 6.3ft point guard for defensive purposes. But this may turn out to be Lee? Great roster as it stands returning and incoming freshman.
 
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Blackwell has some certain people in his ear telling him how the role for him isn’t what he needs here … Too many mouths to feed … He wouldn’t be successful …

It has nothing to do with us “whiffing” or not having the money … He’d start … He’d get 30+ minutes a night and he’d get an absolute BAG …
He'd literally be the best player on a preseason #1 team :rolleyes:.

At the end of the day, you're only as good as the people around you.
 
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Putting this as nicely as possible …

Blackwell has some certain people in his ear telling him how the role for him isn’t what he needs here … Too many mouths to feed … He wouldn’t be successful …

It has nothing to do with us “whiffing” or not having the money … He’d start … He’d get 30+ minutes a night and he’d get an absolute BAG …

But some people who in my opinion don’t know ball think somehow he wouldn’t have the role he needs … Just what it is …

Vaaks will be the primary handler … Morillo and Coleman are going to play big roles …
This makes more sense since this will be the last year for Tomi, Z, Jake, and Drej.

I’m stoked at the prospect of a full summer for the old heads and new faces to get acquainted and work out the pecking order.
 
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I hear you on this, but we’re not wanting to land Blackwell because it’ll make us preseason #1 per se. We want Blackwell so we can become borderline unstoppable, overwhelm teams with depth and talent, and intimidate everyone in our path lol. To kind of reach that Michigan tier from this last season. I don’t think we should avoid Blackwell to make sure we avoid preseason #1 lol.
Totally, not saying we needed to avoid #1. My point was, at least recently, pre-season rankings are not the end all be all of predictors for a national championship. At this point last year, we had no idea what we had in Keaton Wagler. I am happy we got most of the guys back that could come back. It raises our floor and blackwell would have raised our ceiling. There is something to be said for development and time for these guys to gel. I think the 2024 UConn team is what may be our trajectory in terms of continuity.
 
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Blackwell left Wisconsin stating he wanted to compete for a championship. Well, Blackwell’s camp, you have to play with really high-usage, good players to do that. If that’s not the goal, stay at Wisconsin, Gard can make a guard pop.
This right here. If what he said is true about wanting to play for a championship you have to make sacrifices in order for that happen. It can’t be ‘I’m gonna get mine so I can get to the NBA’. It’s either that or go play for another team where you can average 20 a game but not on a team that has a chance to win big.
 
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Didn’t expect Blackwell to go this route, but if you’re not with us, you’re against us. Thank you, next.
I’m petty enough to hope he rolls his ankle every 5 games next year and has a horrible year. I wanted the same for morez this past year
 
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It is a good team. Not a stand out team. Relying on some luck with help and a lot of faith in Freshman. I get 1 but counting on 2, 3 or even 4 is a tall task. Hopefully they pick up a vet because Brandon looked unplayable last year. At the end of the day do I wish we went for the jugular sure, but Brad has earned my wait and see approach.
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We have 5 key contributors returning from a Final Four team + one of the best transfer guards in the country. 2 highly-ranked plug and play freshmen coming in. Getting Blackwell or similar would be awesome but this is already a ‘standout team’.
 
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I think we still need a strong back up big behind Mirk / Tomi in case of foul trouble. Seems like we only have Tomi and Mirk that can body other string bigs. Z doesn’t have the strength and jumps into the rafters on every pump fake. Any foul trouble up front and we seem weak. Are any of the freshmen able to fill this role?
 
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This is a good question. Illinois has already spent around 15 million this offseason, which is easily top 10 in the country. If you saw what type of numbers teams were willing to pay Mirkovic, Tomi, and Drej, you would be floored. Illinois can afford Blackwell, but they are also confident in the incoming freshman/Vaaks (they spent a ton of Vaaks, Coleman, and Morillo) to fit in really well with your three to five. There's also very high optimism that Ethan Brown will make a impact right away.

Certain people in Blackwells camp did not want him to take the risk of going to Illinois, when Vaaks/Coleman/Drej are all potential breakout pieces and he would have been a secondary option (if those guys breakout).
If Blackwell’s camp doesn’t want him to have to play at his best to be the top scoring option and are afraid of competition then he want right for us from the first place. He would be our top scoring option right now, we would just have really good 2 through 7 scoring options too

It’s an odd reason not to come here - because we might be too good. Michigan got 9 guys to go there last year and all of their bench could have started somewhere else, Yaxel could have scored more on a different team. We have to get guys willing to sacrifice their stats a bit for skills growth and winning. Everyone else that has come back has shown they are willing to do that so maybe Blackwell isn’t a fit afterall
 
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His agent has every right to question that. I would. He's got one year left to impress the NBA scouts and there are already a lot of guys on this roster who are trying to do the same. There's only one ball.

Also, I'm guessing Drej's agent was having very similar concerns.
No one is blaming the agent. It's the posters who automatically assumed Illinois wouldn't pony up for Blackwell that are the issue.
 
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We sure this isn't the ol car dealer tactic where you suddenly change course and are "no longer interested" in the product, forcing them to make a choice quickly?
Wishful thinking is all I guess. Would have loved to have landed Blackwell but understand not everything is in our control.
 
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