Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

#326      
Lmfao...anyone here that actually.....really.......honestly, believes that a Final Four team returning 65-70% of it's production from the most efficient offense in CBB history....THAT ALSO ADDED a Top 5 portal guard AND 2 top 10 (position) freshman SG's AND Wisconsin Mr. Basketball AND a top 25 (position) combo guard....isn't competing for a NC......needs to take the weekend off of this board.

Sure, I get it's your "opinion", but it's really dumb.

I'll bet all of my Loyalty Beach houses and a gallon of your favorite cottage cheese we will receive pre season #1 votes.
I don’t know if we will get there but I can’t like this enough. On paper we have an extremely talented and experienced squad and right now, on paper is all anyone has! This team has the opportunity to be special again this year. I like our chances. ILL…
 
#327      
Mick Cronin has put 1 guard into the nba as a first round pick at ucla. And dent got worse.

Be my guest
I think this is more important than the national championship thing. Blackwell wants to play at the next level and Mick doesn't have a good track record. Brad's record is impeccable in terms wings/guards.
 
#328      
At Kalshi, UConn and Florida's championship odds just jumped while Duke's dropped. I see Khamenia is transferring to UConn, but what happened at Florida?

Edit: the jump for UConn happened yesterday evening. Can't get more than four on the graph at one time

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How much money is in that market… probably doesn’t take much to move it would be my first thought.
 
#329      
I see the continued commentary that he pushes us up the ladder. When I see a guy that removes his interest because he's not going to shine enough, visions of Matt Mayer comes into my head. We were so excited to get him, but ultimately, it was a terrible marriage because he wanted to get shots up. He wanted his and if he didn't get it, he wouldn't get back on defense. Anyone else remember that?

I'm not saying that this would be remotely the same situation, but it does look like wherever he ends up, he's going to want his shots and he's going to obviously want to be featured and not be part of a shared ball, winning cures all approach.

Hey, he sees his dream and money at the end of the rainbow so close that he can smell it and wants that spotlight. I can totally understand that line of thinking. Can't fault a guy for that.

However, if you're Illinois and you already have a bunch of mouths to feed.....you need to be careful to keep that balance in your locker room. Part of what made last year's team special was that there were no me first guys. Drej could have definitely been that way, but he put the team first and came off the bench. Something tells me, he got some assurances that won't be the case again, which might be where the bottleneck is? I'd hate to be a coach trying to manage all of this and putting together a team that fits vs a team that has resentment towards the guy at the locker next time him.

There are a lot of teams out there with a really, really good roster, but they just don't mix. That's not us thankfully and BU needs to make sure that stays the case.
It wasn’t just Mayer’s in game performances and attitude. I’m sure most remember, but the guy literally missed games because he drank too many Monster energy drinks and got himself sick. Just moronic behavior. I can only imagine how un serious he was about winning and leading by example off the court.

I don’t want to risk this teams chemistry being ruined by someone who isn’t bought in.
 
#330      
I could not disagree more with this assessment of Mayer. Regardless of whether he was playing his ideal position or not, he could have had far better shot selection. I don't think there has ever been more contested step back 3s attempted in the history of basketball. To be fair, there was no cohesiveness with that team. But, by the same token, he was a major reason for the lack of cohesion because he was only looking to get his shot.
Well because nobody else on the team was capable of creating their own shot in the half court that year. He was actually hitting them at a good clip until he had a cold stretch to end the year.

TJ was a monster in transition but he improved a ton the next year.

The biggest thing you can say about Mayer is that he wasn't Marcus Domask but I don't think people realize how incredibly special it was for Marcus to turn into a point guard mid season and just continually get better at it(that is just an incredibly rare thing to do).

He took a lot of step back shots because he wasn't a great ball handler and should have never been a primary ball handler in a half court setting.
 
#331      
I think this is more important than the national championship thing. Blackwell wants to play at the next level and Mick doesn't have a good track record. Brad's record is impeccable in terms wings/guards.

All of this is assuming it's true this is mainly about Blackwell's camp being concerned about usage.

Illinois just has a much better system for you to thrive in. If you get more usage in a worse system? Cool. @aveseaboy is right, if this is your stance stay at wisconsin. They're offense was 10th compared to UCLA down in the high 20's (and btw, UCLA was a pretty big disappointment this year, they were predicted ahead of Illinois). Gard actually does have a track record with guards going pro too.

DUMB. Now if Duke? I get it a lot more.
 
#332      
How much money is in that market… probably doesn’t take much to move it would be my first thought.
Definitely. After looking at it more, the graph shows historical transactions, and large ones can move the price a lot in these currently thin markets. Duke and Florida pretty much went back to where they were a little while after I posted that.

The current price being offered looks more stable. (For example, we dropped from 9.1% to 6.4% on the last transaction, but the currently offered price is 9.1%, so that last transaction obviously was too large for the liquidity)
 
#334      
Well because nobody else on the team was capable of creating their own shot in the half court that year. He was actually hitting them at a good clip until he had a cold stretch to end the year.

TJ was a monster in transition but he improved a ton the next year.

The biggest thing you can say about Mayer is that he wasn't Marcus Domask but I don't think people realize how incredibly special it was for Marcus to turn into a point guard mid season and just continually get better at it(that is just an incredibly rare thing to do).

He took a lot of step back shots because he wasn't a great ball handler and should have never been a primary ball handler in a half court setting.
No. He had a decent stretch in, at most, the third quarter of the season. Otherwise, the large majority of his shots were ill-advised and appeared selfish.

You are right, Mayer wasn't a good ball handler, which is a not a good reason to take bad shots. If he was looking to make the team better, he would have moved the ball and then moved without the ball into good positions for shots far better than low percentage step back 3s. He was actually pretty athletic, but nullified his athleticism most of the time by settling for terrible long range shots.
 
#335      
goat move is chili oil (“lao gan ma” in particular) on cottage cheese. The kick, crunchy bits, umami from the chili oil go extremely well with the creaminess of cottage cheese.
 
#336      
Blackwell sets visits to Duke and Louisville. Already visited UCLA.

Does not look like Illinois is involved.
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#339      
From my understanding (mainly reading the insiders comments) — is that the Blackwell buzz was very strong UNTIL the Andrej announcement.

He announced his return, and either we backed off on Blackwell or his camp backed off on us (I guess it’s been said his camp backed off on us).

Either way, he had his shot.

Too bad. We move.
 
#340      
From my understanding (mainly reading the insiders comments) — is that the Blackwell buzz was very strong UNTIL the Andrej announcement.

He announced his return, and either we backed off on Blackwell or his camp backed off on us (I guess it’s been said his camp backed off on us).
If he backed off on us then why didn’t he back off on Louisville and Duke? Those are just as, if not even more talented teams. If he doesn’t see the fit on our team - then he wouldn’t be considering those schools either.

I think the staff probably thought we don’t need to spend 4-5mil on a transfer (which… kinda sucks).
 
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#341      
From my understanding (mainly reading the insiders comments) — is that the Blackwell buzz was very strong UNTIL the Andrej announcement.

He announced his return, and either we backed off on Blackwell or his camp backed off on us (I guess it’s been said his camp backed off on us).
Honestly, if he can’t see his (solid) fit in this roster, then he wouldn’t see the vision of the staff and system. His chemistry would be off, and money obviously could become a bigger influencer on his mind the whole time. Therefore he’d hold us back; so all power to him elsewhere. This year won’t be about any one player, it’ll be about the team as a whole. The talents will shine brighter that way.

Bye.
 
#342      
From my understanding (mainly reading the insiders comments) — is that the Blackwell buzz was very strong UNTIL the Andrej announcement.

He announced his return, and either we backed off on Blackwell or his camp backed off on us (I guess it’s been said his camp backed off on us).
Oh well. His loss. Its too bad adults are driving these kids recruitments. If it's fear of competition then we do not want you. I understand money is a driving force behind alot of this. We have one talented group of freshmen coming in so it should not be of concern.
 
#343      
One thing I keep going back to and I could be misremembering , but it was the oddest thing when Big Z had the mask on. It seemed it really threw his balance off to the point he was falling down for no apparent reason on a rebound, simply lost his footing and fell to the ground for a travel call. Oddly though it seems his 3 point shooting seemed to get worse after the mask. I could be way off on those stats but it has me thinking, do we need to make him a Phantom of the Opera style mask... maybe balance the vision and balance his footing out a lil :)
 

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#345      
If he backed off on us then why didn’t he back off on Louisville and Duke? Those are just as, if not even more talented teams. If he doesn’t see the fit on our team - then he wouldn’t be considering those schools either.

I think the staff probably thought we don’t need to spend 4-5mil on a transfer (which… kinda sucks).

We'll see. My guess is if Duke brings back Foster and Evans (they're not confirmed like our guys), then he wouldn't go there. If Evans or Foster leaves, it makes a lot of sense

And I certainly wouldn't call Lville more talented than us. Sheldstad is fine. Bidunga is really good. People seem to like Knox, but he was hurt last year and his stats are okay. Wooley coming back helps, but they gotta fill out a roster that pretty much saw everyone go.
 
#346      
Saw some rumors floating around on X that Boswell could potentially return since the eligibility rules could change. Any truth to that?

I’d love to have him back. Guy seemed to be an awesome leader and great teammate
 
#347      
One thing I keep going back to and I could be misremembering , but it was the oddest thing when Big Z had the mask on. It seemed it really threw his balance off to the point he was falling down for no apparent reason on a rebound, simply lost his footing and fell to the ground for a travel call. Oddly though it seems his 3 point shooting seemed to get worse after the mask. I could be way off on those stats but it has me thinking, do we need to make him a Phantom of the Opera style mask... maybe balance the vision and balance his footing out a lil :)
I think he wore the mask starting with Southern and ending with USC. If so, he was 34% before the mask (but with a handful of Q4 opponents), 30% with the mask, and 10% after the mask.
 
#350      
Saw some rumors floating around on X that Boswell could potentially return since the eligibility rules could change. Any truth to that?

I’d love to have him back. Guy seemed to be an awesome leader and great teammate
Saw that too! If that could happen we would embrace it with welcome arms! How nice would that be?
 
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