Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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#226      
Oh, absolutely.

As a baseline, Justin Harmon - who was very glad to come play here - averaged 14pts, 3.8rebs, 2.9ast at UTAH Valley. At Illinois, he played 18.7 minutes per game.

You could literally go on and on, but here's 3 guys with similar profiles at their most recent stops.




Actually... it's the other way around. You'll make much more playing 15 minutes here than starting for a penurious school like Boston College, Utah, DePaul, etc.
Give em a call. Then call BU and tell him you got some players lined up for him.
 
#229      
Scholarship vs. Walk-on isn't too much of a thing to track anymore. Every team has 15 roster spots to fill regardless of that distinction.

By my count our roster sits at 12.

FR (4):
Morillo, Brown, Coleman, Davis

SO (4):
Jakstys, Mirkovic, Fagbemi, Vaaks

SR (4):
T. Ivisic, Z. Ivisic, Davis, Stojakovic

3 open roster spots as we sit today.
YIKES!
We need to recruit JUNIORS!
 
#231      
Maybe we should try to balance the force here…

This Illini team has everything it needs to be the best team ever. We’re going to have to practice against NBA teams just to improve. I feel bad for the rest of the B1G who stands no chance.

Blackwell didn’t come because he saw our embarrassment of riches and thought it wasn’t fair. Too bad he didn’t want to be a national champion, which we are all but guaranteed. Playing the games are really only a formality at this point.

Brad is already the greatest Illini coach in history and will cement himself as one of the greats in all of the NCAA history next year.

Oh, and our team is gonna be a hell of a lot of fun.

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#232      
What he's doing is this --

4 guys on our final 4 team will back: Mirk, Tomi, Andrej, Jake (Z as well, yes)

Mirk and Tomi will be the only ones starting on next year's team who also started the final 4.

Jake won't be starting. And Andrej didn't start the final 4.

It's just a loop whole ... and a pretty ignorant one.
It was a specious and disingenuous argument to try to win a point on a fan message board.
 
#233      
He’s not counting Davis - the argument is the final four starters were Keaton, Davis, Bowell, Mirk and Tomi. And since Andrej will probably start over Jake this year, it doesn’t count
😂😂😂You’ve got to count either Davis or Andrej as a starter. Otherwise, there were only 4 guys who started in the FF. Davis was a starter. Andrej played starter minutes.
 
#234      
I think the suggestions for possible improvements are respectful and aren't implying any doom. Maybe they're bad ideas or undersell our current roster or are wishful thinking, but the staff made it clear they also wanted even more in their attempt to get Blackwell, so it's kind of ironic to criticize anyone wishing for more.

Last year's team ended the season ranked #5-7 in KenPom/Torvik/EvanMiya. Teams like that go into the NCAAT with ~7% odds to win it all, and our pre-season odds are currently around that also. With those odds every year, we'd have a ~50% chance of a natty in 10 years. Brad has brought us so far to even be thinking about this right now. And I think he would agree that we'd like those chances to continue to get better- meaning we need a handful of teams meaningfully better than last year's.

Maybe there's nothing else that can be done this year because we can't force whoever we want to play here, but we don't have to insult respectful opinions (much less the people sharing them).
My intention was not to insult anyone. If that is how you took it I apologize.
I do find it interesting that sometimes I read that BU is not satisfied so why should the fans be satisfied. Other times the staff IS satisfied so the true fans need to cry out they need to do more. It appears that whatever narrative suits the argument best is the one they run with.
 
#235      
Offensively we are juiced again ... should be another KenPom darling and really fun to watch.

Defensively I don't know ... are we better, worse, same? Maybe better as a unit with all of the IQ? I still worry about not have "that dog" on D to put a speed bump on the quick guards out there.
 
#236      
Coleman is not backup PG. He’s going to start at SG.

Morillo is interesting since he can play 1-4. The thing is we’re counting on him to be ready. If he is, he’ll definitely see the court since he can fill 4 of the 5 spots.
Morrilo is not a B10 4 man. There is no darn way right at 6'7" 215lbs he is going to play effectively defend the B10 power 4s like Morez, Pherrell Payne. MSUs, Purdues, or most other teams. Morrilo wasnt brought here to back up Mirk and guys Mirk can cover. Its ridiculous to think he can match up with the guys the B10, Bama, Tennessee and UConn play at that spot. Its totally a pipe dream. Morrilo can play the 1-3 but if he is asked to defend the 4s in this league he will be abused.
 
#239      
Morrilo is not a B10 4 man. There is no darn way right at 6'7" 215lbs he is going to play effectively defend the B10 power 4s like Morez, Pherrell Payne. MSUs, Purdues, or most other teams. Morrilo wasnt brought here to back up Mirk and guys Mirk can cover. Its ridiculous to think he can match up with the guys the B10, Bama, Tennessee and UConn play at that spot. Its totally a pipe dream. Morrilo can play the 1-3 but if he is asked to defend the 4s in this league he will be abused.
In that case Z is your backup 4 man and you play Double Ivisic.
 
#241      
Morrilo is not a B10 4 man. There is no darn way right at 6'7" 215lbs he is going to play effectively defend the B10 power 4s like Morez, Pherrell Payne. MSUs, Purdues, or most other teams. Morrilo wasnt brought here to back up Mirk and guys Mirk can cover. Its ridiculous to think he can match up with the guys the B10, Bama, Tennessee and UConn play at that spot. Its totally a pipe dream. Morrilo can play the 1-3 but if he is asked to defend the 4s in this league he will be abused.
Can he guard the back-up 4 though?
 
#242      
Morrilo is not a B10 4 man. There is no darn way right at 6'7" 215lbs he is going to play effectively defend the B10 power 4s like Morez, Pherrell Payne. MSUs, Purdues, or most other teams. Morrilo wasnt brought here to back up Mirk and guys Mirk can cover. Its ridiculous to think he can match up with the guys the B10, Bama, Tennessee and UConn play at that spot. Its totally a pipe dream. Morrilo can play the 1-3 but if he is asked to defend the 4s in this league he will be abused.

I think the thought of Morillo playing the 4 is as a backup for a few minutes each game. He isn't going to encounter these huge, giant mismatches and the staff isn't going to put him in that position.
 
#243      
😂😂😂You’ve got to count either Davis or Andrej as a starter. Otherwise, there were only 4 guys who started in the FF. Davis was a starter. Andrej played starter minutes.

I agree. But hey, I respect @wc_illini , he’s always got level headed and fair takes.

And reading all his previous posts, this seems mostly about depth, which if that’s the main point I think is entirely fair.

No shade, I just disagreed with that point. I enjoy bantering on lineups and roster build far more than adjustment talks anyway, these are all good and fun “problems”
 
#245      
Absolutely sucks Ty isn’t healthy (or that we can’t count on it)

The more we talk through this, he seems to be the Swiss Army knife that helps a ton off the bench in multiple spots. Not to mention, just a great team guy
 
#246      
In that case Z is your backup 4 man and you play Double Ivisic.
What if one of them gets hurt or sick? We gonna play 6 again and lose? We should get another big unless JJ is going to be back. If JJ is back then he will do.
 
#248      
Again, Coleman didn't sign util yesterday. The freshmen had "committed" but that's pretty meaningless, until July.

A couple months ago Coleman was "Committed" to Wake Forest...

I don't know if he stays here if Blackwell enters the picture. I don't know if we could afford a 5-star guard if we paid Blackwell 5 million.

What I do know is that Blackwell backed off, and THEN Coleman signed his LOI.

Do you think that was coincidence? I don't.

True, but insiders were also saying we had elite backup plans if Blackwell didn't work. I find it hard to believe that we stopped being aggressive in the portal because of a 5 star freshman. If you have the resources to add an experienced portal piece to a team that's ready to win now, you do it 10/10 times, right?

If I put my orange tinted conspiracy glasses on.... Maybe the staff is working on another big addition but keeping it very hush hush to keep it from turning into a bidding war.
 
#249      
In that case Z is your backup 4 man and you play Double Ivisic.
Yep, thats why i hope we find a big 4 with some experience to replace Ben. Given the Ivisics history of leg, ankle and other ailments the lack of depth and experience after Z is the spot im hope Misko or Brad can fill. Ben played a pretty big role and right now Z is our only experiencr guy backing up the 4/5 spots with any size.
 
#250      
Morrilo is not a B10 4 man. There is no darn way right at 6'7" 215lbs he is going to play effectively defend the B10 power 4s like Morez, Pherrell Payne. MSUs, Purdues, or most other teams. Morrilo wasnt brought here to back up Mirk and guys Mirk can cover. Its ridiculous to think he can match up with the guys the B10, Bama, Tennessee and UConn play at that spot. Its totally a pipe dream. Morrilo can play the 1-3 but if he is asked to defend the 4s in this league he will be abused.
Morillo will get his chances in practice to show if he is capable. He is going to learn a lot trying to slow down Mirk in practice. If he isn't ready, you are just going to see more Twin Towers.
If he gets on campus as early as he can, there is no reason they can't put 10 lbs on him before the season starts. Keaton added something like 15 last summer.
 
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