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Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
The idea that every aspect of college basketball coaching can be neatly separated into two distinct buckets, "Recruiting" and "X's and O's" was an oversimplification in 2006 and is basically just plain wrong today.
The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
Genuinely, no doubt the staff will go out and get what they want. They've proven they know what they're doing.
RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
I suspect Ty will command more on the open market, where some team will over pay for him based on his play before redshirting and the injury, than he would receive to come off the bench at Illinois. He’s a beloved figure here, but he has a finite time to maximize his NIL earnings so he’d be wise to do that elsewhere.
The Davis vs Andrej thing is pretty simple. Yes, Davis started at the end of last year. No, Davis probably won't be starting next year. Andrej and Boswell couldn't really play at the same time at the end of last year. Boswell started, Andrej didn't.
Coleman is a true shooting guard (Boswell isn't). Coleman and Andrej should fit better together than end of year Andrej and Boswell.
Coleman is a true shooting guard (Boswell isn't). Coleman and Andrej should fit better together than end of year Andrej and Boswell.
We have only 1 experienced big man in Big Z to back up 2 positions. What if there foul trouble or god forbid an injury. Thats not the same thing as having 2 bodies. Big Z backing up the 5 and someone like Ben backing up the 4 and Z to help as needed. I just hope Tomi, Z or Mirk dont go down or miss nig games. If so then what? Thats a big part of roster construction that seems risky. I hope we add a big guy.
Vaaks seems to play faster than Keaton. And assuming Drej starts, I’d guess we’d creep forward a touch.
Mid 200’s
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Jake and Andrej played 282 minutes together and we were +16.8 in net rating (vs +22.3 for our entire team avg). Our ORTG was the same as our avg, but our defense was worse.
I mean its just not going to be that big of a deal... we can counter matchups with substitutions just like other teams do.
I think they would consider a guard or a big. It might come down to what things look like in summer workouts. They added Petrovic in late July last year.
I dont think Morrillo will play the 4 in B10 for 5 minutes all season unless we have an injury. If so, thats scary to me.
Insiders have said Brad does not give guaranteed starter promises.
The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
And KJ signed May 29th and Will signed June 23rd. The staff knows how to find guys over the summer. I don't know why some of y'all are stressing.
God why are so many of our fans so unable to realize there are hardly any teams ever that you walk into the next season completely knowing you are the top 1 or 2 team in the country. Like outside of maybe that Baylor team in 2020-2021 that returned everyone from the insane Covid team, it hasn’t happened recently. Michigan and zona were something like 7th and 12th to start last season.
This team has 3 guards that can be primary ball handlers if you believe in our teams talent evaluators (which you definitely should by now) - morillo, Coleman, and vaaks. Mirkovic who with the opportunity to actuallly have a summer to develop very well could/should be a top 10 player in the country. Shooters all over, size and rebounding all over spearheaded by the Ivisics, an ELITE driver/finisher and on ball defender with stojakovic, etc…. And most importantly we know this teams works well together. Wagler was amazing, but things at times could get stagnant with him. At the beginning of the year we saw this teams ability to move the ball and make sh** happen, which I fully expect this year.
At this point, other than maybe Florida and Duke, we are the safest bet to be elite next season out of all teams in the country.
This team has 3 guards that can be primary ball handlers if you believe in our teams talent evaluators (which you definitely should by now) - morillo, Coleman, and vaaks. Mirkovic who with the opportunity to actuallly have a summer to develop very well could/should be a top 10 player in the country. Shooters all over, size and rebounding all over spearheaded by the Ivisics, an ELITE driver/finisher and on ball defender with stojakovic, etc…. And most importantly we know this teams works well together. Wagler was amazing, but things at times could get stagnant with him. At the beginning of the year we saw this teams ability to move the ball and make sh** happen, which I fully expect this year.
At this point, other than maybe Florida and Duke, we are the safest bet to be elite next season out of all teams in the country.
Thanks for the kind words- I enjoy the conversations here with you as well.
The original post in this case was from wncillini though:
The lurkers thank you for your views. We are legion.
skyIdub
"I can't tell you. Secret."
The problem with a lot of these takes is that this is being presented to only be obtainable through the portal.
It’s like some are ignoring just how big of a bust Petro was in relation to expectations, while simultaneously ignoring that the room for (roster) improvement is already in the room.
Im giving these freshman all the minutes they can get.
The chances that a portal addition is a bust is at least equal to, if not greater at this point, than all of our freshmen are a bust.
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
High 60's. 26, 23 and 22 type pace.
It's why the LJ Cason example is interesting. Yes, it is true, Michigan had guard depth (although id argue if it was Cadeau who went down, the depth wouldn't matter) to survive the Cason injury.
But Cason averaged 12 minutes as a freshman, shooting 38% overall and 25% from 3. He had a flat assist to turnover ratio. Cason would be the guy a lot of the board would be saying we couldn't count on as a depth piece.
I guess you feel ok rolling the dice that no one gets hurt and not having a player similar to what Ben did last year is no big deal. That possibility of only 1 real experience back up worries me. Thats why Ben was important and adding someone like that would ease my concerns quite a bit considering how often Tomi and Z miss games. Hopefully Mirk wont either.
My guess is they will watch Brown (as the ninth guy), see if he lives up to his billing, then add guard if they need and if not, add a big.
2024-25 we saw that a 3-man rotation at the 4-5 spot got thin in a hurry when Tomi was out for a few games and then Morez. I too would like to see a 4th big added. Insurance!