Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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As an Oregon State fan (and thus a Pac 12 fan), it will be easy to keep tabs on Ty. I’ve always that all the love for Ty was disproportionate to his contributions beyond him being a part of a very good Illini team, but I hope he does well — other than against the Beavers, of course.
 
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As an Oregon State fan (and thus a Pac 12 fan), it will be easy to keep tabs on Ty. I’ve always that all the love for Ty was disproportionate to his contributions beyond him being a part of a very good Illini team, but I hope he does well — other than against the Beavers, of course.
with so little continuity in rosters these days it’s easy to love the guys that stick around
 
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with so little continuity in rosters these days it’s easy to love the guys that stick around
Not sure I equate redshirting because he won’t get minutes to the typical “guys that stick around.” Too bad that he got hurt last year though. Hope he’s fully recovered and does well.
 
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The fix has always been there, right before our eyes. Categorize student athletes as employees, allow collective bargaining. That unlocks the ability to sign contracts with specific terms about pay and length. Imagine if a 4 year contract became the standard for prep recruits, with specific termination terms in the event of transfer (for example, monetary buyout of remainder of contract by player, unless transfer decision is mutual). You'd have a lot more stability in roster construction, which is what the fans want, and the players would have the protections of CBAs and a union.

Bad for the NCAA, probably negatively impacts coach compensation in the long run (probably no immediate effect), good for fans, good for players. I can live with that.
A union and collective bargaining would be a good and stable solution, and is the solution US labor and antitrust law is designed around for situations like this.

But like, let's be candid here, fundamentally "fixing college sports" is now just purely a question of restricting player rights. To reduce their ability to transfer and have contractual restrictions enforced against them.

Why would a college freshman want to join a union whose purpose is to restrict them?

(This edges up to one of my hot takes which is that NBA players would be better off without a union, which at this point is almost purely a cost-limitation mechanism for the owners)

Good program, Leon Rice is one of the most underrated coaches out there. Go get 'em Ty!
 
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good landing spot. he needs to play a lot and he wlll
You said it. Excellent fit for Ty. Boise has a solid program and he’ll get to play a lot. I loved how fiery and emotionally involved he was all the time despite not playing. Connective pieces can be on the bench as well as on the floor. Ty was that for us because of his attitude and involvement.

I’ll be rooting hard for him.
 
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A union and collective bargaining would be a good and stable solution, and is the solution US labor and antitrust law is designed around for situations like this.

But like, let's be candid here, fundamentally "fixing college sports" is now just purely a question of restricting player rights. To reduce their ability to transfer and have contractual restrictions enforced against them.

Why would a college freshman want to join a union whose purpose is to restrict them?

(This edges up to one of my hot takes which is that NBA players would be better off without a union, which at this point is almost purely a cost-limitation mechanism for the owners)


Good program, Leon Rice is one of the most underrated coaches out there. Go get 'em Ty!
Any sort of pay restrictions will put us right back to an era where teams that can/will exploit rules and loopholes will and gain an advantage. There is no way to enforce it, and more importantly it never gets enforced evenly.

It's hard to start a union because the leadership/representation is rolling over every four years. It will just get drug out in court until those who want to form lose interest because it no longer pertains to them. And as you said, it is actually against their best interests.
 
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McBride won conference player of the year the year you're talking about, so.......
McBride was 31st in recruiting and Iguodala was 26th in his class. McBride started either as a freshman or sophomore, Iggy didn't make varsity until he was a junior. You can give Iggy his props without taking shots at our alumni. Quentin Coleman just went from mid 30s to mid 20s and we're raving about him. McBride was a damn good recruit and elite shooter.
Wasn't "taking shots" at all. McBride was a damn good high school player. Never said he wasn't. Had originally just pointed out that he was originally the #1 recruit in the country in like 8th grade or freshman year. He had some physical issues as he got older that caused his game to stall out a bit.

He was also big for his size as a freshman (compared to normal freshman). He had the body of a college guard pretty early. Gave him a distinct physical advantage that leveled off as he got older. That combined with the aforementioned injuries dropped him down a bit. Still a good college player. Nothing to be ashamed of.

But by late in his sophomore year & certainly his jr year (Iggy's senior year) it was obvious Iggy was on a different level. Hell his sr year, Iggy was on a different level than few I have ever personally seen play at the high school level. Electric doesn't even begin to do it justice.
 
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Any time I hear or see Boise State I always think of the Andre 3000 lyric from the Drake song ‘The Real Her’ Can’t post it on here because it’s not Loyalty friendly. :ROFLMAO:
 
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As an Oregon State fan (and thus a Pac 12 fan), it will be easy to keep tabs on Ty. I’ve always that all the love for Ty was disproportionate to his contributions beyond him being a part of a very good Illini team, but I hope he does well — other than against the Beavers, of course.
Lucas Johnson was also a beloved Illini player and they have very comparable contributions statistically. I would argue that any disappointment with Ty is more a result of higher expectations and injury than with contributions. I will be rooting hard for him.
 
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As an Oregon State fan (and thus a Pac 12 fan), it will be easy to keep tabs on Ty. I’ve always that all the love for Ty was disproportionate to his contributions beyond him being a part of a very good Illini team, but I hope he does well — other than against the Beavers, of course.
Keep forgetting about the "new" Pac-12 hoops conference. Should be pretty competitive and a great opportunity for Ty
 
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Keep forgetting about the "new" Pac-12 hoops conference. Should be pretty competitive and a great opportunity for Ty
Every time I look at it I get angry again about the brain-dead discredited thinking about media markets and related nonsense that led them to invite Texas State.

The whole thing is a farce, but you're right, it ought to be a pretty strong basketball league and a big step up for Gonzaga.
 
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They’re orange and blue, even.
At least the court doesn’t hurt my eyes.
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