Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

[joeybcrazy13]

Good luck Ty and Brandon... I truly wish them the best!!! ILL

 

[Second place is 1st loser]

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Very nice landing spot for Ty. It's a good league and he should get some solid playing time. Hopefully, he remains healthy and in a league that doesn't have the same caliber of athletes as the Big 10, SEC, ACC, Big 12 or Big East.....he should be able to progress comfortably.

The fact that Boise is willing to take a shot on a great kid, who has just had some tough luck.....mark me down as a fan unless they play us.

 

[PrideOfJersey]

I really wanted to see a Soph Brandon Lee... and whatever year Ty was getting to. dammit

 

[PasadenaIllini]

Wasn’t Marcus Liberty number one at some point?

 

[jamarvelous31]

The classic "unions are bad for employees" trope that has literally no basis in fact. Statistical analysis after statistical analysis shows that unions have increased employee pay, benefits, and safety in every single industry and country in which they've been introduced, and conversely that when labor participation rates have suffered, so has employee compensation.

Contracts are negotiated documents, as are CBAs. You give up something to get something. Likely the price for allowing players to be locked into longer-term deals is a bigger share of revenue pie. NCAA basketball and football are the only two high-revenue sports leagues I am aware of where coaches make more than star players.



I have no idea how you come to this conclusion. Just look at player vs coach compensation in the NBA vs in college. Ayo, a fringe starter/6th man (very good one, but still) is about to get a long term deal making more annually than the highest paid coach in the entire league. If Wagler is picked #5 to the Atlanta Hawks, which is where a bunch of projections have him, he will make more than his head coach as a rookie.

At the same time, AJ Dybantsa is rumored to be the highest paid NCAA basketball player ever at $4.4 million in NIL, which is one half Bill Self's annual salary.

The union has helped players grab a way bigger slice of the NBA revenue pie than NCAA players could even dream of.

Sorry, but unions are great for employees when they need leverage they can't obtain as individuals. It's the definition. Dybantsa doesn't have that problem.

Coaches have had a free market since they were playing in peach baskets. Saying that an unproven freshman is only halfway to the top of the coaching income market after 4 years of an open market pretends that today is the ceiling or that those numbers haven't accelerated (also Cooper Flagg allegedly made 28M https://www.foxsports.com/stories/c...ooper-flagg-make-nil-during-his-one-year-duke).

Using real numbers. The NCAA grossed 1.4B in 2024. NBA gets 50% BRI, given the growth in roster costs we saw this year you really don't think spending won't exceed 700M? https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...financial-report-revenue-surplus/80733616007/

 

[jamarvelous31]

James Madison is an interesting choice. Good luck Brandon. For basketball, I'm surprised that he went as far down as the ASUN. I expected him to go to something akin to a Pac12/Atlantic10/Missouri Valley school. For academics, James Madison is a great choice.

Dunno, his next best offer was Miss St and then Duquesne out of highschool.. he gets the top 100 kid label because of 247 (99th) but was the 127th ranked composite player.

JMU dominates the sun belt, seems like a great pathway to put up numbers and be on a high-major roster next year...

 

[the juiceman cometh]

Sorry, but unions are great for employees when they need leverage they can't obtain as individuals. It's the definition. Dybantsa doesn't have that problem.

Coaches have had a free market since they were playing in peach baskets. Saying that an unproven freshman is only halfway to the top of the coaching income market after 4 years of an open market pretends that today is the ceiling or that those numbers haven't accelerated (also Cooper Flagg allegedly made 28M https://www.foxsports.com/stories/c...ooper-flagg-make-nil-during-his-one-year-duke).

Using real numbers. The NCAA grossed 1.4B in 2024. NBA gets 50% BRI, given the growth in roster costs we saw this year you really don't think spending won't exceed 700M? https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...financial-report-revenue-surplus/80733616007/

That's not the relevant number. The NCAA doesn't collect all, or even most, of the revenue generated by college sports. To that number add in the approximately $3.6 billion generated by the Big 10, SEC, ACC, and Big 12 and now you're at $5 billion without touching the smaller conferences or revenue generated by individual schools (from things like ticket sales, sponsorships/naming rights, etc.) Do you think players are getting $2.5 billion a year in NIL?

Just look at the individual school level. We generated $148 million in revenue in 2023. Did we have a $74 million NIL budget? OSU generated $280 million in revenue. Did their players get $140 million in NIL? I mean, the next season, 2024 we were talking about a $20 million OSU football roster like it was a mind blowing idea. Let's say they also spent $5 million on basketball. That puts OSU's NIL outlay at about 9% of revenue.

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