Yes, sounds like he's at worst the 3rd guard.Wagler's floor is 7.
If he's sitting there at 7, then it's very likely the previous two picks were Brown and Acuff (in either order).
Yes, sounds like he's at worst the 3rd guard.Wagler's floor is 7.
"NBA insider Brett Siegel revealed this in multiple columns over the past several days. The Bulls are said to be smitten with Wagler after a recent workout.
“AS REPORTED LAST WEEK ON CLUTCHPOINTS, THE CHICAGO BULLS HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO MOVE UP INSIDE THE TOP 10 OF THIS YEAR’S DRAFT AND ADD ANOTHER HIGH-LEVEL PROSPECT IN ADDITION TO WHAT EVERYONE EXPECTS TO BE CALEB WILSON WITH THE FOURTH PICK. IF THE BULLS WERE TO MOVE UP FROM NO. 15, THE INTENT BEHIND DOING SO WOULD BE TO DRAFT WAGLER, WHO SOURCES SAID CHICAGO HAS PINPOINTED AS A TOP GUARD OPTION IN THIS CLASS AFTER A RECENT WORKOUT."
maybe they should move to Indiana?The Bulls are where careers go to die
Nooooooooo!!!!!
"NBA insider Brett Siegel revealed this in multiple columns over the past several days. The Bulls are said to be smitten with Wagler after a recent workout.
“AS REPORTED LAST WEEK ON CLUTCHPOINTS, THE CHICAGO BULLS HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO MOVE UP INSIDE THE TOP 10 OF THIS YEAR’S DRAFT AND ADD ANOTHER HIGH-LEVEL PROSPECT IN ADDITION TO WHAT EVERYONE EXPECTS TO BE CALEB WILSON WITH THE FOURTH PICK. IF THE BULLS WERE TO MOVE UP FROM NO. 15, THE INTENT BEHIND DOING SO WOULD BE TO DRAFT WAGLER, WHO SOURCES SAID CHICAGO HAS PINPOINTED AS A TOP GUARD OPTION IN THIS CLASS AFTER A RECENT WORKOUT."
Sans beard, that guy looks just like me after an Illini loss.![]()
...and yes, I know that people react differently to grief and I sound crazy.
Understand sarcasm. Plus... Acuff outplayed Flemings in that game regardless of win/loss.Very unlikely that's how it works. It's the team's individual evaluation of the prospect, that matters.
Flemings' team beat Acuff on December 20th. I haven't seen one mock draft that has Flemings ahead of Acuff for draft night.
Looking back on the Kings recent draft history... It's even worse than I thought.My interpretation from what I've seen as far as Intel:
• top 4 seems set; the order could vary depending on what happens with Utah picking between Peterson/Boozer
The run on point guards likely transpires like this (assuming no trades):
• Clippers: Brown or Wagler
• Nets: Brown or Acuff or Mara (Wagler cancelled his workout)
• Kings: Absolutely LOVE Acuff; but if he doesn't fall through, likely choosing Brown or Wagler (whoever falls to 7)
• Hawks: Mara or Flemings (or if one of the top guards fall)
• Mavs: LOVE Burries, but could change if one of the guards fall
Of course NONE of this is set in stone; just what sounds likely at the moment. But it begs the question that if it is between LAC and SAC for Keaton, that's pretty boom or bust as far as organization stature. So much of the "bust" conversations generally has to do with who is getting picked by a terrible organization.
I guess, but at the same time, Halliburton at 12 was a phenomenal pick. Arguably the best player in that entire draft. And then in last year's draft their only pick was a second rounder, Maxime Reynaud at #42, and he ended up 7th in the entire class in win shares.Looking back on the Kings recent draft history... It's even worse than I thought.
They've drafted 3 guys in the 1st round who aren't basically replacement level fodder.
Cousins
Fox
Haliburton
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAC/draft.html
Absolutely dismal talent identification.
Clippers aren't much better, but they've only drafted above #25 six times in the last 20 years.
But I don't want Keaton to become a flopper
"Along with previous reporting of the Bulls being a team with trade-up interest from the 15th pick and targeting Wagler inside the top 10 in such a scenario, ClutchPoints has learned that the Kings, Atlanta Hawks, and Oklahoma City Thunder also have interest in Wagler."
"Oklahoma City's interest in moving into the top 10 is real, with Mara, Wagler, and Ament brought up in connection to them."
I'm OK with that...
"Along with previous reporting of the Bulls being a team with trade-up interest from the 15th pick and targeting Wagler inside the top 10 in such a scenario, ClutchPoints has learned that the Kings, Atlanta Hawks, and Oklahoma City Thunder also have interest in Wagler."
"Oklahoma City's interest in moving into the top 10 is real, with Mara, Wagler, and Ament brought up in connection to them."
I feel like he’d be a bit redundant given their current roster but it would be a great spot to land otherwise. Good player development and he does fit their system really well
"Along with previous reporting of the Bulls being a team with trade-up interest from the 15th pick and targeting Wagler inside the top 10 in such a scenario, ClutchPoints has learned that the Kings, Atlanta Hawks, and Oklahoma City Thunder also have interest in Wagler."
"Oklahoma City's interest in moving into the top 10 is real, with Mara, Wagler, and Ament brought up in connection to them."
Their roster is absurd. Literally need to give players away to make room for draft picks. (all of whom play fairly meaningful roles)I'm OK with that...
Top 9, all freshmen.
“5. Keaton Wagler, PG/SG, Illinois
Freshman | Height: 6-6 | Age: 19.4 | Previous ranking: 5
Strengths: Wagler plays with pace and poise beyond his years, relying on his craft and playmaking vision to create shots for himself and teammates. He's also a consistent shooter with great size, making him effective at either guard spot. His ability to process the floor and make great decisions made Illinois an elite offensive team, and he flashed his potential to become a lead facilitator.
Weaknesses: Wagler has average length and needs to add physical strength to realize his full capabilities on both ends of the ball, something he has time to address. He has questions to answer defensively and is not explosive or fast by NBA standards, which could make for a steep adjustment and add some risk to his profile.
The verdict: A late-blooming prospect who was not nationally ranked out of high school, Wagler emerged as a college star. His developing offensive game is on a clear growth trajectory. After leading a surprise Final Four run, he set himself apart among the elite guards in the class. NBA teams have also factored in his outstanding intangibles, viewing him as a building-block guard with stellar upside.”
*Boswell at 61
Woah Ben's at 100
“5. Keaton Wagler, PG/SG, Illinois
Freshman | Height: 6-6 | Age: 19.4 | Previous ranking: 5
Strengths: Wagler plays with pace and poise beyond his years, relying on his craft and playmaking vision to create shots for himself and teammates. He's also a consistent shooter with great size, making him effective at either guard spot. His ability to process the floor and make great decisions made Illinois an elite offensive team, and he flashed his potential to become a lead facilitator.
Weaknesses: Wagler has average length and needs to add physical strength to realize his full capabilities on both ends of the ball, something he has time to address. He has questions to answer defensively and is not explosive or fast by NBA standards, which could make for a steep adjustment and add some risk to his profile.
The verdict: A late-blooming prospect who was not nationally ranked out of high school, Wagler emerged as a college star. His developing offensive game is on a clear growth trajectory. After leading a surprise Final Four run, he set himself apart among the elite guards in the class. NBA teams have also factored in his outstanding intangibles, viewing him as a building-block guard with stellar upside.”
*Boswell at 61
They even said Tyler has the chops to be an NBA head coach someday and I’m old enough to remember bigcityillini filling us in on the lack of talent Tyler has:
“If you are talented enough you don't need to get hired by your dad. Others would take notice. If Tyler truly is that good of a coach as some here, say and is only making 120K (as some posters claim) then what the hell is he doing? Wouldn't he be selling himself short? He leads this elite offense and yet gets no national press... why?“
I guess he’s getting national press now.
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