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The reason for promoting Mike is to keep the roster together.
Let the exodus commence…
Thoughts on player movement at Michigan the next couple weeks. Really late in the game at this point.
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
And now I'm remembering Izzo and Bruce palling around before IL-MSU games 15 yrs ago and need a strong palate cleanser.
I would be shocked if they didn’t lose anyone , but I highly doubt they lose more than 2.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
All of the B1G coaches, including Brad, are revoltingly reverential to Izzo. As are all the reporters.
Izzo is a great coach without question, but Nick Saban accomplished twice as much and was still well understood to be a miserable curmudgeon. Why Izzo gets to the Mayor of Basketballtown is beyond me.
And even more shocking if it's anyone who is going to play a lot. There can't be too many teams left with the dollars available to match what the main guys are getting at Michigan.
Boynton knows how to sell players. He got Cade Cunningham to OK St, despite the post-season ban. Though, his brother being on the staff probably didn't hurt.. Nonetheless, he got the best HS player in the country to go to Stillwater... You can't do that if you aren't a bit of a salesman.
He won't likely do things too much differently than Dusty, though I'd wager its a significant step back from an X's and O's perspective... Might be enough to move the needle in 2-3 B1G games.
Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
My early guess is because Michigan has a lot of money and is coming off a national title (and they are making interim coaching moves to try and keep the roster intact). This will hold some of the dropoff for the moment. The longterm outlook is what should make the rest of us relatively happy. Great news to see May out of Ann Arbor.Michigan moved to 12 to 1 to win it all on Fanduel after the news. Circa has hardly moved, +850. They were right around 8 to 1 everywhere before this news. I am surprised there hasn't been a sharper, more immediate reaction. Coaches have so much influence over a program at the college level, this has to seriously hurt their potential for this season.
The power of 1-way markets I suppose.
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Looks like the changes are trickling in at other books- Draftkings has them at +1400 now. They might be the first book (aside from Kalshi) to drop UM below us.
RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
While that is a very strong factor, consider now that all the Michigan players have an increased value on the open market where they’re the only supply while various teams may present a high demand. The players might like Boynton but they’ll probably like double their money better.
hooraybeer
- Peoria, IL
tough for UM. also, man did IU miss out on their potential golden goose. love pointing that out again
if BU were to leave today, I imagine OA would be the guy, at least for the season
if BU were to leave today, I imagine OA would be the guy, at least for the season
Schertz would be a fantastic get imo so hopefully no.
He had a great thing going at Michigan and could have settled in there and won for a decade. He had money to play with, he got whatever kids he wanted, the compensation was pretty outstanding and after winning a national championship, he probably had a lifetime contract lined up.
The NBA is a whole different ordeal. I don't think that you have to be a great X's and O's guy and you definitely can't have an overwhelming personality. In college, if players are unhappy, they transfer. In the NBA, if players are unhappy, you're fired and black balled.
All that said, his value will never be higher than it is right now and the good news for him is that if he fails miserably, getting back to a top tier college job, a year after being an analyst on CBS or ESPN.....he won't have to look hard.
Gutsy move and only time will tell if it was the right decision.
BU is at his dream job
We have him as long as he wants to coach .
Yeah, they're kind of stuck. He left everyone in a pretty tough spot by taking this gig so late in the game.
If you're a player, most rosters are full and teams are going through their summer programs.
If you're the AD, you can't bank on that being the reason kids don't bail. I'm sure a lot of their guys were promised certain roles that a new face to the program wouldn't be willing to honor. If you're MI, you hope May doesn't take a bunch of staff with him and you keep the roster as steady as possible, then deal with standing pat or conducting a search in 2027.
I'd think that Boynton would be the only choice ...this year.
mattcoldagelli
- Script Illinois Enthusiast
I think you've gotta be a pretty good strategist/game manager/X and Os guy, which is what helps keep the players happy.
I have to think you have someone like Thibs in mind with "overwhelming personality" and yes, agree.
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Lol.Just remember - if Brad’s name doesn’t come up for the Michigan job. That should tell you a lot about what the national viewpoint of him is.
On a more serious and off-topic note, I think it definitely helps us that historically there really hasn't been this "can't-say-no" job in the Big Ten like a Duke / North Carolina in the ACC or how OSU / Michigan function on the football side of things for us. I know that will bruise the ego of Indiana historically and even UCLA now, but there are a lot of good basketball jobs in the Big Ten, and I feel like the gap between them is small enough that schools will always stand a good chance of keeping their coach.
For example, Indiana routinely ranks above Illinois and Michigan State on job rankings that I see, but ... whatever perceived gap there is seems pretty small to me. If Illinois and MSU enjoy "worse resources" in some way, it is to a small enough degree that Indiana would likely have a difficult time pulling off that poach. Compare that to some younger, Dusty-May-esque coach who goes to Virginia and has them rolling ... if Duke comes calling with a blank check, I think it'd be hard for many in that situation to say no.
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We are lucky that - despite protests from Indiana and UCLA fans - we don't have some program within the Big Ten that just exists in a stratosphere way above the rest of us.
Illinicpa14
- Chicago
I don’t think it’s gutsy because of the paragraph you said above, he could get just about any job he wants in college…like Kentucky next year if he flames out.
Billy Donovan can more/less do the same now too (yes I know his nba is regarded as positive).
That thought occurred to me as well. Delightful.
Are the buy-outs in the NBA fully guaranteed? Crazy to think he could take a job at $15 mil a year with a good buy-out, fail, take the buy-out, and then fall back to what, $8-10 mil at another college?
College coaches are definitely making a ton of money but NBA money can be a different level if the owners want to spend it on a coach. May was on 5 for 25 million before the championship and likely got a raise(or would have).
I think Self is still the highest paid college coach at like 9 million. Steve Kerr is making nearly double that. The Mavs could have pretty easily doubled or tripled what he was making at Michigan(they could afford to pay him 30 mil a season if they wanted to) and I would guess that he has 4-5 years of runway at a minimum.
Also, college sports are in a weird spot and you have to recruit year round including rerecruit your own roster to stay. High school commits also mean less than ever since they can jump ship at the last minute if they their assumed role shrink from portal adds or retention. It's a very weird juggling act of trying to build as talented of a roster as possible while keeping everyone happy.
On a different note, I just think that this is a different generation of coaches and with how big the money has gotten that we will see a lot of guys retire earlier and not see as many guys coaching into their late 60s or even 70s. I expect to see a lot more guys follow the Jay Wright path and retire around 60(it's the NBA but I expect Kerr to retire soon).
May is 49(about to be 50). A lifetime contract is not much different from a 5 year one from Dallas if youre planning to retire at 60 and he is probably making the same amount in 5 years that he would in 10 at Michigan. I think this applies to a lot of sports but I genuinely don't see a guy like Scheyer coaching until he's in his 70s.