Illini in the Pros (Football)

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PleaseMakeABowlGame
WhereDoWeStandWithStorr? said:
The luxury of having your QB on a rookie deal.

They can afford a monster team for now.

Once they pay Nix, they’ll experience significant cap pressure.
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Yep, and that’s where I think the value of quarterbacks is overstated.

I’d much rather have an elite team, than pay up for one guy and deplete every other spot on the roster.

I’m surprised teams don’t rotate quarterbacks on rookie contracts. Once a guy’s deal is up, you don’t HAVE to re-sign him just because he’s a QB. You can find your next Bo Nix in the draft for the next 4-5 years (maybe trade up, give up 1 or 2 firsts).

That way, you remain a championship contender, because the rest of the team stays elite.
 
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#133      
Fly Illini Fly!
PleaseMakeABowlGame said:
Yep, and that’s where I think the value of quarterbacks is overstated.

I’d much rather have an elite team, than pay up for one guy and deplete every other spot on the roster.

I’m surprised teams don’t rotate quarterbacks on rookie contracts. Once a guy’s deal is up, you don’t HAVE to re-sign him just because he’s a QB. You can find your next Bo Nix in the draft for the next 4-5 years (maybe trade up, give up 1 or 2 firsts).

That way, you remain a championship contender, because the rest of the team stays elite.
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There’s zero guarantee that the next quarterback will be Bo Nix.
 
#134      
WhereDoWeStandWithStorr?
PleaseMakeABowlGame said:
Yep, and that’s where I think the value of quarterbacks is overstated.

I’d much rather have an elite team, than pay up for one guy and deplete every other spot on the roster.

I’m surprised teams don’t rotate quarterbacks on rookie contracts. Once a guy’s deal is up, you don’t HAVE to re-sign him just because he’s a QB. You can find your next Bo Nix in the draft for the next 4-5 years (maybe trade up, give up 1 or 2 firsts).

That way, you remain a championship contender, because the rest of the team stays elite.
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what's the logic here? so KC shouldn't have re signed Mohomes? BUF shouldn't have re signed Allen?

you need to keep your quarterback.
 
#136      
PleaseMakeABowlGame
WhereDoWeStandWithStorr? said:
what's the logic here? so KC shouldn't have re signed Mohomes? BUF shouldn't have re signed Allen?

you need to keep your quarterback.
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Those are literally the top 2 quarterbacks in the entire league.

You have to ask yourself: "Is the quarterback SO good, that his mere presence on the roster guarantees a SB contender every year?"

Allen? The answer is yes.
Mahomes? The answer is yes.
Caleb Williams in 4 years? I think the answer will be yes.

If the answer is no, then I'm not sure it's worth it to dismantle a core that's seemingly top 5 at every position (like Denver has right now).

Clearly there's other dimensions to it, which is why front office people don't see it that way.

Then again, if your team isn't that good, you probably aren't parting with that many assets to begin with.
 
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WhereDoWeStandWithStorr?
PleaseMakeABowlGame said:
Those are literally the top 2 quarterbacks in the entire league.

You have to ask yourself: "Is the quarterback SO good, that his mere presence on the roster guarantees a SB contender every year?"

Allen? The answer is yes.
Mahomes? The answer is yes.
Caleb Williams in 4 years? I think the answer will be yes.

If the answer is no, then I'm not sure it's worth it to dismantle a core that's seemingly top 5 at every position (like Denver has right now).

Clearly there's other dimensions to it, which is why front office people don't see it that way.

Then again, if your team isn't that good, you probably aren't parting with that many assets to begin with.
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It's been the gist of the NFL for decades (who am I or you to justify or criticize it).

Anyone can have a young QB. That's not some major accomplishment.

Young QB + not very good —> not worth going all-in for.

Young QB + very good —> that's when you go all-in, and assemble the monster team Denver has (via free agent signings, extending your young guys, etc).

Then the QB commands an extension —> rebuild phase, rest of the guys depart. Hopefully you've drafted well to feast on cheap contracts (if not, oh well).

It's literally the process we saw Kansas City go through.
 
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Mr. Tibbs
drafting a qb in the first round is no guarantee he will be worthy . it’s a 50% likelihood at best .

see Bears 1990-2024

my preference is to keep the good one you have after his initial contract for another 5 years or so . letting him walk is a huge risk
 
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Fly Illini Fly!
PleaseMakeABowlGame said:
Those are literally the top 2 quarterbacks in the entire league.

You have to ask yourself: "Is the quarterback SO good, that his mere presence on the roster guarantees a SB contender every year?"

Allen? The answer is yes.
Mahomes? The answer is yes.
Caleb Williams in 4 years? I think the answer will be yes.

If the answer is no, then I'm not sure it's worth it to dismantle a core that's seemingly top 5 at every position (like Denver has right now).

Clearly there's other dimensions to it, which is why front office people don't see it that way.

Then again, if your team isn't that good, you probably aren't parting with that many assets to begin with.
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If the answer was "no," then Denver wouldn't have built the roster they have around him. That "core" you're talking about wouldn't even exist, if they didn't think Nix was that guy.

It'd just be like the Bears with Justin Fields.

Clearly Nix is in line for that extension. This is Denver's best chance at the prize since the Manning years.
 
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