Duke 31, Illinois 27 Postgame

#202      
To me Brett shoulders a lot of the blame due to him prioritizing taking care of Aaron Henry instead of taking care of our program.
1. He kept Henry one more season than he should have
2. When he knew 100% that Henry had to go, he held on to him until Henry had a soft landing at ND. But by then, most of the good DC candidates had already been scooped up
3. He had all his eggs in the basket with LB coach from the Seahawks that then Okee Doked Brett after the Seahawks won the SB.
4. and that left Brett rummaging through the recycle bin for an already retired D2 coach, who now sits in the press in box during games (get your !!! on the sidelines and coach up your D that is getting smoked!)

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#203      
This game was only made worse by sitting in front of a human that had to be an AI model that hijacked a body ala Men in Black and was trained on the worst takes and misinformation of Loyalty game threads.

Defense is atrocious and Lunney seemed to run out of plays that got Dixon open. This game was the litmus test of how the season will go, and we are basic as you can get.
 
#204      
I’d be mad about the game if I were surprised by the outcome, but I’m not. Anyone that’s been following Robert closely knows that he’s been sounding the alarm on this team since he began watching fall practice. Not that it’s a 3-9 type team, just that it’s likely going to be a big step back from last year.

Here’s a quick recap of the past few years and how we got here:

> Over the past 2 years, we went 19-7. That was powered by an 8-1 record in one score games. The quarterback that lead the game winning drives to achieve that record now plays for the Detroit Lions.

> After last year’s 9 win season, we lost our entire offensive line (except one guy, who was out for this game), our 3-year starter quarterback, our top receiver, our entire defensive line, and a few linebackers. Which meant coming into this season, we ranked 75th in the country in returning production (returning production is heavily correlated with record).

> We had an average defense last year. Ranked in the 40s. But Bret and the fans want to be better than average on that side of the ball. So he cut the coordinator loose and hired a new coordinator to bring in an all new scheme. Honestly, I didn’t like this decision at the time and I like it even less now (not the decision to fire Henry, that needed to be done, but the decision to hire Hauck). But that’s a not the point of this post.

> When you have all new players learning an all new scheme, you can expect growing pains. And again, last year’s defense was average, yet likely had better personnel, especially up front, than this year’s defense. So that should tell you what this year’s defense is going to look like. Can the 3-3-5 work long term? No idea. But it‘ll likely work better later when the players are thinking less and reacting faster.

> Obviously today was awful. But not entirely unexpected. Robert predicted we’d lose 30-28 and called it being a sloppy game. 17 new starters can have that affect.

> Final thoughts: Football is a game of the weakest links. You can have a great QB, receivers, offensive line, defensive backs, etc, etc, etc, but if you’re bad up front in defense, opposing coaches will key in on that and it breaks everything. Outside of cleaning up the mistakes and miscues, we absolutely need the funding next year to not have such obvious holes in a position group or two on the roster. 1-2 bad position groups can kill a whole team.
 
#205      
I’d be mad about the game if I were surprised by the outcome, but I’m not. Anyone that’s been following Robert closely knows that he’s been sounding the alarm on this team since he began watching fall practice. Not that it’s a 3-9 type team, just that it’s likely going to be a big step back from last year.

Here’s a quick recap of the past few years and how we got here:

> Over the past 2 years, we went 19-7. That was powered by an 8-1 record in one score games. The quarterback that lead the game winning drives to achieve that record now plays for the Detroit Lions.

> After last year’s 9 win season, we lost our entire offensive line (except one guy, who was out for this game), our 3-year starter quarterback, our top receiver, our entire defensive line, and a few linebackers. Which meant coming into this season, we ranked 75th in the country in returning production (returning production is heavily correlated with record).

> We had an average defense last year. Ranked in the 40s. But Bret and the fans want to be better than average on that side of the ball. So he cut the coordinator loose and hired a new coordinator to bring in an all new scheme. Honestly, I didn’t like this decision at the time and I like it even less now (not the decision to fire Henry, that needed to be done, but the decision to hire Hauck). But that’s a not the point of this post.

> When you have all new players learning an all new scheme, you can expect growing pains. And again, last year’s defense was average, yet likely had better personnel, especially up front, than this year’s defense. So that should tell you what this year’s defense is going to look like. Can the 3-3-5 work long term? No idea. But it‘ll likely work better later when the players are thinking less and reacting faster.

> Obviously today was awful. But not entirely unexpected. Robert predicted we’d lose 30-28 and called it being a sloppy game. 17 new starters can have that affect.

> Final thoughts: Football is a game of the weakest links. You can have a great QB, receivers, offensive line, defensive backs, etc, etc, etc, but if you’re bad up front in defense, opposing coaches will key in on that and it breaks everything. Outside of cleaning up the mistakes and miscues, we absolutely need the funding next year to not have such obvious holes in a position group or two on the roster. 1-2 bad position groups can kill a whole team.
Very well written and I agree.
 
#206      
I think we all were spoiled with the 2022-2025 run of Illinois football. That was an era of a very good QB, a ton of NFL talent, and a coaching staff that maximized our wins level.

I can deal with one subpar “typical” Illinois football year after that run. The stadium still looks great, the fans seem still bought in, I can’t get too emotional over one down year after a run of (8,5,10,9) win seasons.
 
#207      
Oline's a bigger issue in my mind than the defense which will get better imo. Constantly zero push and our rb's immediately trying to evade defenders. Also no depth at wr position. We need Platt on the field asap
 
#210      
Did Duke make a defensive adjustment at half time to take away the slant? It was sick how easy that yardage was in the first half. Did we complete even a single slant in the second half?
 
#211      
I am not blaming the NIL budget on the loss. Very winnable game today.

It's a conversation topic in general right now with football, we need better athletes especially on the defensive side of the ball. they can salvage a decent season out of this still.

What we need now is the guys we prioritized in retaining to step up and start earning their money. Today wasn’t just a winnable game, it’s a game we should’ve won. We have made a lot of mental mistakes and played undisciplined. It’s also unacceptable to only score 3 points in the second half.

BB has said many times how much it the defensive linemen cost now but by far the biggest weakness in this defense is linebackers. Those guys are absolutely horrible and we only brought in 1 transfer for that position and he stinks.
 
#213      
that's the game. as bad as the D was, this is the blame.
How was the D Bad? Duke had 9 possessions - scored 4 touchdowns had 1 field goal. 370 yards. That is one of the best running backs we are going to see in 2026. 370 yards. We averaged close 350 yards/game last year. Not difficult to see what the issue is, in the new formations we are slow to the ball carrier. That can be fixed.
 
#215      
To me Brett shoulders a lot of the blame due to him prioritizing taking care of Aaron Henry instead of taking care of our program.
1. He kept Henry one more season than he should have
2. When he knew 100% that Henry had to go, he held on to him until Henry had a soft landing at ND. But by then, most of the good DC candidates had already been scooped up
3. He had all his eggs in the basket with LB coach from the Seahawks that then Okee Doked Brett after the Seahawks won the SB.
4. and that left Brett rummaging through the recycle bin for an already retired D2 coach, who now sits in the press in box during games (get your !!! on the sidelines and coach up your D that is getting smoked!)
I'm lost - how was promoting Aaron Henry - not "taking care of our program?" Boy when we lose, some supporters start making statements that defy logic. The simple fact here is we are at the bottom of the B1G in terms of spend for on and off field talent. What BB has accomplished is more or less a miracle. When we can spend $15mm on off field support and $25mm on the field, then there is something to talk about. We aren't even in that area code. The simple fact is - its US, the support for the program that is deficient. Not the head coach and certainly not the AD.

And this second and third after the fact questioning of a coach who has been very successful... it shows the depth of deficiency the support.

In winning programs - you back the coaches and players when they lose, not tear them down.
 
#218      
Missed opportunity yesterday. We know the defense will struggle at times, but our offense had an awful 2nd half. They had 3 chances to take the lead in the 4th quarter and couldnt score.

This loss was on the offense not the defense. The defense was pretty much what we thought yesterday, but came through when it counted. The offense is supposed to have the talent, the experience, and is where we invested our resources this year.

I know there were some injuries but still this loss was on the offense, and much of it was the offensive play calling down the stretch.

Just make a bowl game.
 
#221      
Missed opportunity yesterday. We know the defense will struggle at times, but our offense had an awful 2nd half. They had 3 chances to take the lead in the 4th quarter and couldnt score.

This loss was on the offense not the defense. The defense was pretty much what we thought yesterday, but came through when it counted. The offense is supposed to have the talent, the experience, and is where we invested our resources this year.

I know there were some injuries but still this loss was on the offense, and much of it was the offensive play calling down the stretch.

Just make a bowl game.

We also missed a wide open touch down
 
#222      
Is that a GM (Embleton) issue as it relates to prep?

Ultimately BB sits atop the program, which I get. Yet ppl need to do their job and do it well. So what happened? I’ve yet to fully understand this aside from “we don’t have enough money”.

Not looking to point fingers. Just don’t see the full picture aside from insightful speculation as of now.

Realistically it’s all gem related. They shouldn’t be this caught off guard what the prices for players is going to be. We thought we had McCollum,coenen and tomiwa all coming back. If we just had 1 of those guys imagine how much better the dline would be.
 
#224      
Realistically it’s all gem related. They shouldn’t be this caught off guard what the prices for players is going to be. We thought we had McCollum,coenen and tomiwa all coming back. If we just had 1 of those guys imagine how much better the dline would be.
Agreed in full.
 
#225      
The other problem with waiting so long to get a new defensive coordinator is the portal was already closed. Maybe if would’ve helped if he would’ve been able to bring players from Montana. Or if we were able to recruit players for this scheme
The transfer portal opened again for Montana players after the coaching change and while Bobby was named your DC. No players chose to leave.
 
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