Duke 31, Illinois 27 Postgame

Status
Not open for further replies.
#378      
therealmiket86
Curbelo Fanboy said:
Lots of people don’t get this. All this talk about scheme is kinda missing the bigger point. We don’t have the personnel to really run any scheme. A 3 man front can and does work in places. It relies on high end linebackers and safeties. We don’t have that. Last year was a more conventional d and we couldn’t get off the field on 3rd down with that either. The program has to invest on that side of the ball to fix it. Bret is good but he is fighting uphill on the nil front. I just hope we didn’t build a nice big shiny scoreboard that will play to a half full house if the program falls off
Click to expand...

We invested a lot in Bailey, x and juice. The dline and lb room didn’t get addressed
 
#380      
gibb52
WyattEarp said:
In all seriousness…

If Iowa truly is in our (do more-with-less, tax bracket)…I wish we could figure out how to reverse engineer their approach.
Click to expand...
Step 1 Have the same head coach for nearly 30 yrs
Step 2 Have the same defensive and offensive philosophy for nearly 30 yrs
Step 3 Have long term coordinators and many assistants.

Bret is on his 3rd DC in 6 yrs. That's not the Iowa way.
 
#381      
Bbuck21
therealmiket86 said:
The guys on the dline aren’t lb size.

Pat Farrell 6’5 285lb
Joe Barna 6’4 275lb
Darrel Prater 6’3 310
Carter Janki 6’5 295
Will holmes 6’4 260

The dline isn’t good but the problem is the linebacker are brutal. They take bad angles and can’t tackle.
Click to expand...
Those aren't D-line sizes either.
 
#382      
therealmiket86
Bbuck21 said:
Those aren't D-line sizes either.
Click to expand...

It’s not lb size and realistically who isn’t dline size? Holmes and Barna are at de. Also this defense is based off players that can move. They don’t want 330lb linemen

Gabe Jacas - 6’4 261
Keith Randolph - 6’5 300lb
Johnny Newton - 6’2 300lbs

I guess those guys also weren’t the size of defensive linemen
 
Last edited:
#383      
therealmiket86
gibb52 said:
Step 1 Have the same head coach for nearly 30 yrs
Step 2 Have the same defensive and offensive philosophy for nearly 30 yrs
Step 3 Have long term coordinators and many assistants.

Bret is on his 3rd DC in 6 yrs. That's not the Iowa way.
Click to expand...

The other difference is they have spent money on defense. We have no 4 star recruits playing on defense.
 
#384      
Illini92and96
LvilleILL1 said:
There is going to be a big talking point in general with the budget. They just don't have the guys right now, and the NIL budget for football needs to be upped a bit.

Basketball's has quite frankly exploded and may be top five in the country for next offseason. Not expecting that for football but that really needs to improve.
Click to expand...
Sigh. This is just sad, and the epitome of what is wrong with college football. Sounds like a comment you would expect to hear in one of the pro sports like MLB. It reminds me of video games where you pay money for special gear and then win because you spent the money. Takes some of the thrill out of it.
 
#385      
lstewart53x3
Illini92and96 said:
Sigh. This is just sad, and the epitome of what is wrong with college football. Sounds like a comment you would expect to hear in one of the pro sports like MLB. It reminds me of video games where you pay money for special gear and then win because you spent the money. Takes some of the thrill out of it.
Click to expand...
Just keep in mind our record in the 2000s pre NIL (2000-2021) was 98-164 (.374) and in current NIL era (2022-2025) it’s 32-19 (.627). The NIL era has been good to us. Basketball especially.
 
#386      
Illini92and96
lstewart53x3 said:
Just keep in mind our record in the 2000s pre NIL (2000-2021) was 98-164 (.374) and in current NIL era (2022-2025) it’s 32-19 (.627). The NIL era has been good to us. Basketball especially.
Click to expand...
I don’t disagree (but I also think some of that has to do with having some of the most competent leaders at the helm in a long time). The higher the correlation between winning and money spent the more it just seems like the pros. Heck, we have free agency with 1 year deals.
 
#387      
pvaughn8
lstewart53x3 said:
Just keep in mind our record in the 2000s pre NIL (2000-2021) was 98-164 (.374) and in current NIL era (2022-2025) it’s 32-19 (.627). The NIL era has been good to us. Basketball especially.
Click to expand...
I wish we had Bret for a few more years pre-NIL and during big ten West. He's done a great job adapting to the changes, but he could have done great before and set us up for bigger NIL.
 
Last edited:
#388      
1970 John
So winning is predicated on buying the best players, and the only limit to spending is donations by fans.

Well, if we want to win, we have to come up with the cash. Otherwise we’ll see kickers hardly take off their cleats before announcing where they’ll be playing next year, and not be us.

So instead of waiting for the next billionaire to add his name to Memorial Stadium, it’s time to pull out our check books and make those donations. Well, I have. Who’s next?
 
#389      
WyattEarp
gibb52 said:
Step 1 Have the same head coach for nearly 30 yrs
Step 2 Have the same defensive and offensive philosophy for nearly 30 yrs
Step 3 Have long term coordinators and many assistants.

Bret is on his 3rd DC in 6 yrs. That's not the Iowa way.
Click to expand...
Right. Yes, all of it. You’re obviously correct.

I’d settle for being consistently solid fundamentally & maximizing what talent we do have on the defensive side.
Right now we’re not even utilizing what skill & athleticism we have; in most cases.
The scheme was supposed to enhance the secondary; thus far it’s been the opposite.

Iowa can have their offense.
 
Last edited:
#390      
LFOD
Roundball Sage said:
Nick Saban: “We’ve (SEC) already got nine teams in the top-25. It’s not like the Big Ten, where there’s three good teams at the top and then nothing.”

That’s the rep that the Big Ten generally has these days. And it’s not inaccurate until and unless another Big Ten steps up its game and raises its profile. And that includes the team in Orange and Blue.
Click to expand...
The orange and blue team has defeated the mighty SEC teams in the past two bowl seasons.
 
#391      
WyattEarp
WyattEarp said:
Right. Yes, all of it. You’re obviously correct.

I’d settle for being consistently solid fundamentally & maximizing what talent we do have on the defensive side.
Right now we’re not even utilizing what skill & athleticism we have; in most cases.
The scheme was supposed to enhance the secondary; thus far it’s been the opposite.

Iowa can have their offense.
Click to expand...
www.thegazette.com

Iowa football using 3-3-5 on defense

In most cases, Iowa uses four defensive linemen up front. However, with some of the newer faces throughout the defense, Ferentz and defensive coordinator Phil Parker have found a reason
www.thegazette.com www.thegazette.com
 
#398      
Mr. Tibbs
Our LB's have been below par during the entire BB era. Which is frustrating, because LB and safety should be the easiest spots to fill on Defense with at least replacement level players
Click to expand...
Brett clearly needs to bang the drum louder with Josh and JW needs to work the donors harder. I saw something about a week or so ago about some decent sized gift to athletics getting announced soon.

I have no idea what its tabled for, if operations or capital improvements or whatever
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back