Ohio State 42, Illinois 19 Postgame

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ChiefGritty
ChiefGritty said:
analytically speaking I think it is MUCH MUCH more relevant that he had both (1) never been a defensive coordinator before ever, at any level, in his whole career, and also that he had (2) retired out of contempt with dealing with the realities of the new college football days earlier, than anything to do with him coming from the FCS.
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I'd say this aged rather well
 
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Fly Illini Fly!
Hingle McCringleberry said:
Also, why the F is Bobby Hauck not taking questions after these losses and instead reporters are having to ask Matt Bailey about defensive communication etc...???

I have zero respect for any Coach that makes his players answer for his schematic and communication mistakes.
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I don’t think coordinators take questions after games. They only speak to the media on Mondays.

Bailey doesn’t have any control over what reporters ask him.
 
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Hingle McCringleberry
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#208      
the juiceman cometh
DeonThomas said:
Instead, I'd have Josh first raise/surface the extra $20M to $25M we need, and then make decisions on a case by case (player by player) basis.
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Do we really think there was an extra $20 million out there waiting for Josh to pick up the phone and he was just too lazy to do it?

The money outside parties are going to invest in these rosters is not limitless, and I don't think it should shock anyone that people with that kind of money to burn want to be able to see big results.

Seeing a roster you invested in make a Final Four has to be more exciting than being able to say to your buddies that you helped make the Music City Bowl win happen. Boosters are going to want to see their money go towards the program primed to make bigger waves. Right now that's basketball. Even if JW wanted to allocate the NIL money away from basketball to football, I'm not sure he could (he could with revenue share). And I don't think that's a bad thing. Being honest here, maximizing our chances of winning in basketball is worth a few losses in football in the current moment.

Now, I'm sure JW will use these struggles to shake loose some more money from boosters and that would be great. But I don't think we can realistically expect to get close to the more expensive rosters in Big Ten football without taking from the basketball side of things.
 
#209      
BalloonsTheElephant
I never thought we'd were going to win, but I feel like we had chances to make it a game. Missing an open throw to Trimble to get extend a drive and I think missing Dixon in the end zone were plays I feel that Altmyer and Devito make. I like Houser, but he's not at their level when we need to make a play.
 
#210      
RabidDawgClassic
AirTran said:
No - the defense a made number of big plays and the missed sack in the first half changed the complexion of the game. This goes to time of possession and the fact that offensively we strike quick. Our offense is not a ball control offense. The defense is clearly getting better. Even I could see that. I have only been watching Illini football since 1966, but Jeremiah Smith is one of the best football players in the history of college football. Texas couldn't stop him and they had $15mm more to pay for defensive players than we did. Give Ohio State credit, they are a good football team. Our guys competed and didn't give up. But we were outmanned, not outcoached
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What exactly did you see? 🤔🤷🏼‍♂️
 
#211      
RabidDawgClassic
I complain about the ugly-!!! Horseshoe more than anyone alive, but if I knew what our defense looked like, I’d want all $100 million of Gies’ money going toward the roster. We have put so much effort into changing the perception to “Illinois is an 8+ wins per year program” … this would be a terribly depressing year to lose that momentum.
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I think it should be clear to all by now that Gies gave that money with the clear instructions that it go toward having college football’s largest scoreboard. That purchase was out of character for Josh, especially when $100 million could be spent in much more strategic areas. But for Gies, that scoreboard is both a tax write off AND an advertising and marketing expense. Donating to the NIL fund would be neither.
 
#213      
Mr. Tibbs
BalloonsTheElephant said:
I never thought we'd were going to win, but I feel like we had chances to make it a game. Missing an open throw to Trimble to get extend a drive and I think missing Dixon in the end zone were plays I feel that Altmyer and Devito make. I like Houser, but he's not at their level when we need to make a play.
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agree DeVito & Altmeyer were both better in their last year here than Houser is so far . 8-9 more games left to play tho .

that said, Houser’s play or lack thereof is NOT the reason we lost . He’s doing a lot and has been a great player for us .
 
#214      
Birdus
Patricia didn't have anything to write home about either. They have to be boiling in some stew. 460 yards. We should have put up more points. Outside of Mannings 4th quarter in 110 degree heat, no one has moved the ball like that against them in a long time.
 
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Illini in Italy
Hingle McCringleberry said:
Today & this season's D is a direct by-product of Brett not managing his DC's very well...bottom line. I love Brett and think he has been the best coach we've had for decades. But the difference between us an upper tier team and an average team in the B1G is consistently our defense.

We had one great year with Ryan Walters (who is a d-bag btw) and it's been underperforming ever since. Aaron Henry was in way over his head, Brett kept him waaaaay too long (due to his very close personal relationship with him).

Brett did not have a good Plan A (poor timing, holding Henry too long after season end and all good DC's were scooped up), Plan B (Seahawk's OLB Coach Partridge that backed out of his verbal commitment to Brett) or any Plan C (nobody).

Now we've got a FCS coach that made less $$ than a lot of high school coaches, and he is trying to run his D at a P4 level and his "system" simply isn't cutting it. The goal-line penalty with our 11th man running off the field on the Duke side of the LOS lost us that game. Now we have 9 men on the field against OSU. OMG, what a disaster. That is 100% on Hauck. Again, another DC in waaay over his head.
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Not even close . . . The highest paid high school coach in the US makes $220K per year. Imperfect info, but it's the highest paid coach reported in public documents. The rest of your point is valid . . .
 
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Battle89
the juiceman cometh said:
Do we really think there was an extra $20 million out there waiting for Josh to pick up the phone and he was just too lazy to do it?

The money outside parties are going to invest in these rosters is not limitless, and I don't think it should shock anyone that people with that kind of money to burn want to be able to see big results.

Seeing a roster you invested in make a Final Four has to be more exciting than being able to say to your buddies that you helped make the Music City Bowl win happen. Boosters are going to want to see their money go towards the program primed to make bigger waves. Right now that's basketball. Even if JW wanted to allocate the NIL money away from basketball to football, I'm not sure he could (he could with revenue share). And I don't think that's a bad thing. Being honest here, maximizing our chances of winning in basketball is worth a few losses in football in the current moment.

Now, I'm sure JW will use these struggles to shake loose some more money from boosters and that would be great. But I don't think we can realistically expect to get close to the more expensive rosters in Big Ten football without taking from the basketball side of things.
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I wrote the below sentence in June of 2024, admittedly before Bret's biggest successes. So if you like, change '17th to 13th' to '13th to 9th' or whatever.

Nonetheless, while it does not feel good for the football team to be struggling like this, we are exactly where I thought we would be in terms of overall funding amounts and to where those limited resources would be allocated.

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#219      
Illinivek23
Watched the OSU game this morning after following online gametracker while on vacation. I thought Hansen, Champ and Tuerk played pretty well at OG. Seemed to create some running space and pass protect pretty well with few blown assignments. Very encouraging.

Are we sure the guys ahead of them are "no doubt" better?
 
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