Joel Goodson
- 9th man conundrum
Dave Doeren would be a VVG hire:
DC Bobby Hauck out at Illinois
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I have a lot of free time.
Some him one time in passing early in the season. We made eye contact and he spat a big one on the pavement to his left.
He will now forever be referred to as Hauck Tuah.
He will now forever be referred to as Hauck Tuah.
Illiniaaron
- Geneseo, IL
That’s fine, but he doesn’t get a pass for the terrible hire.
And, he gets along well with our AD.
lol wow. If anything this proves what a disaster of a hire it was to start with. No more hiring guys close to or in retirement.
I think the scheme was bad, but I don’t see any DC making this current group a good defense. Just not enough athletes on that side of the ball.
Offense you can scheme up with non athletic guys. If you don’t have strength and athleticism on defense you don’t have a chance in the Big 10
The defense would actually be worse with this lineup. This also isn’t madden it’s not to easy to change an entire scheme in a week
Get back to a basic scheme that everyone is familiar with. This 3-3-5 will result in defense giving up at least 335 yards a game.
440 is in the house. Your thoughts on the situation, how things will shake out going forward, etc..
A name I liked last offseason was Vince Kehres. Parker coached with him at Toledo
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
I would assume someone on the current staff who knows the defense will take over for the rest of the season and Bret will hire a new staff the second this season ends.
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
What sucks the most is how good the offense is. An Aaron Henry #45 ranked defense likely gets us to 8 wins this year. Now, I’d put the O/U at 5.5.
Homecoming 2019
- Chicago
Can we run a 5-0-6 and just leave the linebackers on the sideline?
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
We've been sold so many just-so stories about all of this by the insiders here, the program itself, about Henry, NIL, Partridge, Hauck, the pluses and minuses of 3-3-5, all of it.
There is something refreshing about just ripping that whole page out of the book and just saying okay, go fix it.
There is something refreshing about just ripping that whole page out of the book and just saying okay, go fix it.
So, what's the plan?
early onset of Dementia?
Just get Cox out of there! The final straw was having one man coverage on their ace wide receiver.
My guess is Cooper or Bradford will call the defense for the remainder of the season. Then after the season Bret will make a new hire. Probably had to happens, I don’t think Bobby was truly Bret’s first choice when hired, I think someone went back on their word and forced Bret to pivot. Bret has known Bobby for awhile and I think Bobby thought he would be reinvigorated to coach again with just being able to focus on the defense now. Obviously I don’t think that was the case. Too many mistakes that can’t happen at this level, heck even at the high school level you don’t see a lot of this stuff. We will know more tomorrow at Bret’s presser though.
blackdog
- Champaign
Yes. These guys are professionals and they've known each other for a long time. I've had to fire people I absolutely did not like and there was no reason for it to ever go that way.
Man, I’ll be real, I don’t think there’s a positive way to spin this one. This isn’t even a “traditional” midseason firing, it’s early season. Not only is this difficult to recover from in the current season but I worry that this quick and early of a firing after 4 games may result in some serious negative recruiting and difficulties in hiring a new DC past this season.
Based on the low talent level of the DL and LB group, such little push and penetration I don’t think there’s really a good answer here. We knew offseason switching schemes without the talent or personnel would be a major issue and it would take time for the players to learn the new system and execute. And while we were clearly far more behind schedule than expected, I do think we have been improving week to week, just our starting point was so low and we have to sell out so much to stop the run, it still looks terrible.
So overall I don’t love the timing of this firing at all even if the poor play of the defense, the communication issues, and the clear lack of player understanding of the defensive scheme and playbook, supports letting him go. I think this is an absolute mess and I pray that this is only going to be 1 season of suffering that we can somehow still eke out 6 wins and not a death blow to our program momentum.
Really shocked by the timing of this.
Based on the low talent level of the DL and LB group, such little push and penetration I don’t think there’s really a good answer here. We knew offseason switching schemes without the talent or personnel would be a major issue and it would take time for the players to learn the new system and execute. And while we were clearly far more behind schedule than expected, I do think we have been improving week to week, just our starting point was so low and we have to sell out so much to stop the run, it still looks terrible.
So overall I don’t love the timing of this firing at all even if the poor play of the defense, the communication issues, and the clear lack of player understanding of the defensive scheme and playbook, supports letting him go. I think this is an absolute mess and I pray that this is only going to be 1 season of suffering that we can somehow still eke out 6 wins and not a death blow to our program momentum.
Really shocked by the timing of this.
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