DC Bobby Hauck out at Illinois

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It was one of those hires that was pretty obviously a bad fit from the start - similar to Petersen. That's not just 20/20 hindsight - when 95% of the reaction from this board is "WTH?" when they are hired, it usually ends up poorly. Hiring retired guys from lower levels of football given how complex offenses are in schemes these days is just not a good path

I imagine Bret plays a much more active role in the defense for the rest of the season - whether it's Cooper or someone else stepping up, I would think Bret will have his hands all over it - he wouldn't have let Hauck go if he wasn't going to do that
 
#253      
Lol - my thoughts on Hauck have been pretty well documented … Never was the right hire from the start …

Giving Henry a soft landing is what caused all this … Didn’t attack the portal right …

Now it’s on Bret to fix it … Step 1 complete …

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Giving Henry the soft landing and striking out on Chris Partridge completely handcuffing himself and landing on Hauck and limited transfer portal options.

Bert learning from this is great, we all appreciate the hustle and decisiveness... does not absolve the incredibly poor process for the 4th season in a row (with the defensive leadership) and the second straight coordinator.

Hope he learns for good that while loyalty is a great trait you have to do whats best for the program always. No more soft landing spots, no more ex-HC who want to collect paychecks, go get a real teacher and defensive mind.

As others have said, cheer against NC State and start backing the brinks truck up to Raleigh
 
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It was one of those hires that was pretty obviously a bad fit from the start - similar to Petersen. That's not just 20/20 hindsight - when 95% of the reaction from this board is "WTH?" when they are hired, it usually ends up poorly. Hiring retired guys from lower levels of football given how complex offenses are in schemes these days is just not a good path

I imagine Bret plays a much more active role in the defense for the rest of the season - whether it's Cooper or someone else stepping up, I would think Bret will have his hands all over it - he wouldn't have let Hauck go if he wasn't going to do that
Even Montana fans were like, yeah we appreciate what he's done but he's not a fit for the modern game anymore.
 
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you mean the 3-3-5, but not the 3-3-3 !
if we could get by with the 3-5-5 id be all for it.
ohio st would have still scored 40 against it, but
id like it.
If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying.:)
 
#256      
Hiring retired guys from lower levels of football given how complex offenses are in schemes these days is just not a good path
This thread has the correct amount of blame assigned to Hauck having one foot out the door of the profession, WAY WAY WAY too much blame assigned to FCS football somehow being less sophisticated (it's not, innovation actually often arrives there first, the players are just slightly less big/strong/fast, that's the only difference. I PROMISE you there are 11 players on the field on every snap in the Big Sky), and WAY WAY WAY too little about Hauck never having been a defensive coordinator before, ever, at any level.

The whole "back to meat and potatoes coaching" thing belied the reality that this was a job that was never his core skillset in his prior career. He was a rah-rah program guy special teams coach who woke up at age 62 fresh out of rah-rah's.
 
#257      
Hauck was supposed to call it in to the sidelines who then called it in to the players. Really dumb, overly complicated, and inefficient system.
Agree - if you run that type of system, have to be on the sideline. There is a bit more to this, given the number of people Hauk brought in. I am confident we will learn more over time.
 
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Bigger joke, Hauck or Beckman?

Have to credit Bielema for being decisive.

:hailtotheorange: :ah: :hailtotheorange:
Yes but hiring someone to run the defense that you determine is not up to the job 4 games in? I love BB, but this does not reflect as well on him as some are depicting.
 
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After the way his departure went down, we'd definitely be better off this year if Henry were still the DC. Shocked to see such an important hire missed so bad, but when you hire in February you're dramatically limiting your options for who's available. Bielema babying Henry may have cost us a whole season of defense.
 
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After the way his departure went down, we'd definitely be better off this year if Henry were still the DC. Shocked to see such an important hire missed so bad, but when you hire in February you're dramatically limiting your options for who's available. Bielema babying Henry may have cost us a whole season of defense.
I wonder if some of those departing defensive players would have stayed if Henry was still the DC? Hindsight is 20/20 I know. I just wish Henry would have been more aggressive and attacking in his play calling. He might still be here if that were the case.
 
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By all accounts Brett botched the entire handling of the DC role due to :
1) the priority of his decision to make sure AHen was taken care of over best positioning our program's D
2) his over-confidence that he could still land a good DC even with #1 above

When the DC talent pool dried up and his identified candidate(s) backed out, he had left himself (and our program) with zero good options. So he pulled Hauck out of retirement with a fat paycheck and hoped that changing the D scheme would make up for Bobby's lack of DC experience.

Clearly that blew up in his / our face.

But kudos to Brett for not hesitating in pulling the trigger and ousting Hauck (who I assume is not bummed at all to get a huge payday for literally a few months of work and can now retire comfortably) as Bobby was not giving anything to the program except mistakes that cost us games.

We will see how deep Brett's hat is, as he looks for rabbit for this season on D. Which is a shame considering how good our offense is.

Let's hope that Brett can finally solve the DC challenge that he has had for the past 4 seasons.
 
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Bret likely has someone in mind to take over DC for this year . Hard to imagine that guy is the guy long term .

BB knows a bunch of “retired” guys who could be interested in a 3-4 month gig . whether any were DCs before is another matter
That’s exactly how Hauck got hired.
 
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After the way his departure went down, we'd definitely be better off this year if Henry were still the DC. Shocked to see such an important hire missed so bad, but when you hire in February you're dramatically limiting your options for who's available. Bielema babying Henry may have cost us a whole season of defense.
Timing was no doubt a big factor in having a limited pool of top candidates to choose from - but the timing now is even worse!
 
#267      
Bigger joke, Hauck or Beckman?

Have to credit Bielema for being decisive.

:hailtotheorange: :ah: :hailtotheorange:
I'll take a shot on this one. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa BECKMAN!
 
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I imagine Bret plays a much more active role in the defense for the rest of the season - whether it's Cooper or someone else stepping up, I would think Bret will have his hands all over it - he wouldn't have let Hauck go if he wasn't going to do that
I will say this with 100% certainty
the change would not have been made without BB knowing exactly how to finish out the season from a defense play calling basis
it’s either himself or someone else he has identified already
 
#269      
Bigger joke, Hauck or Beckman?

Have to credit Bielema for being decisive.

:hailtotheorange: :ah: :hailtotheorange:
The Lasagna/beans and weenies guy tips the scale.
 
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Well I’m hoping this is addition by subtraction but do we have any idea what our ceiling is for the defense this year? I’m assuming the two guys @illini0440 mentioned (Cooper or Bradford) will be at least slightly better because they actually ran the defense at Montana, even if the scheme is outdated… Obviously things can always get worse, but am I crazy to think that we will actually improve modestly?
 
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After the way his departure went down, we'd definitely be better off this year if Henry were still the DC. Shocked to see such an important hire missed so bad, but when you hire in February you're dramatically limiting your options for who's available. Bielema babying Henry may have cost us a whole season of defense.
Agreed, however, this decisive action could very well save this current season. We will see.
 
#272      
Lol - my thoughts on Hauck have been pretty well documented … Never was the right hire from the start …

Giving Henry a soft landing is what caused all this … Didn’t attack the portal right …

Now it’s on Bret to fix it … Step 1 complete …

Im Back Ben Barnes GIF by NETFLIX
I have never been a fan of a three man front. It only works when you have 4 solid linebackers to make plays as the defensive front creates openings. Plus you need a fast blitzing LB like a LT or even a Ricky Jackson/Pat Swilling like New Orleans had. Plus, I never liked a DC in the booth. Needs to be on the sideline directing and calling the D. This multiple confusing communication from the booth to the field never works. If Cooper is the choice, I hope he calls the game from the field and gets the trust of the players. When Bailey basically calls out his coach, you know something is wrong.
 
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Agreed, however, this decisive action could very well save this current season. We will see.
I agree. To fix this, it’s a three step plan starting the day after the season or bowl game. Step one complete. Step two will be hire the right DC by mid January if not sooner. Wake maybe can get into a Bowl game so if Doernen is available, you hire him. That said, step 2 is hire a DC. Step three is sign portal players who fit what the DC plays.
 
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The announcers were so busy praising O. State on the touchdown when we only had 9 players, they didn't even notice it. Makes you sick! They were to busy praising the offensive line for Ohio State. Look this may be another subject altogether but I gotta put this in. At times, we moved the ball on their defense pretty easy. They might win the conference but I don't see them doing much in the playoffs for that reason. Patricia got his butt beat this last Saturday and if not for some of our mistakes, we may have hit 30pts.
 
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